A small victory for NEXT LEVEL - a big one for the people ❗️
In short: Our spokesman Marvin Haberland won the process as expected, in which the court dropped the case and assumed the costs.
The subtleties in it are the great victory:
a) We went into this process without a lawyer
No lawyer wanted to defend us by supporting our strategy. So we didn't have any legal fees. So it works without it.
b) Our strategy is direct and clear
It aims to clarify the lack of scientific knowledge in virology in court, as Paragraph 1 of the Infection Protection Act requires it.
c) We have shown that the measures based on an imaginary virus are not justifiable and unsustainable.
d) As has been shown, no complicated strategies are required, no 400-page indictments. Only the basis must be attacked.
e) The possible avalanche effect
If many people followed our reasoning, either all fines would probably be stopped, or someone would go to the next instance, where the scientific nature would then have to be clarified.
f) Our strategy and expertise, as well as the non-rebuttable motions of evidence, were well known to all involved, both the judicial apparatus and the many staff who we contacted throughout to make it clear that we look forward to the trial. Perhaps this was also one of the reasons why our process was constantly being postponed and unclear statements were made by the employees.
Particularly important:
If the court, the state and others knew something that would allow them to make a legal example of us with regard to our requests for evidence, they certainly would have done so. So they obviously used the simplest "escape option" and simply stopped the process.
A notice:
We get our chance, we don't give up. Virology will get huge problems, we are sure.
We would like to thank all supporters who have the courage to do the right thing. YOU ARE WORLD CLASS ❤️🙏🏻
🎥 Here for the interview after the trial (incl. survey of the trial observers)
Supported by almost 100 spectators, Marvin's trial at the Hamburg District Court took place on April 26 in Hamburg, which was supposed to bring down the whole virology. See what we experienced here.
This is fantastic news, Christine, and I'm so sorry that I'm only aware of it through your substack ... although very glad at least you're publicising it. I haven't read anything yet but will get onto it very soon. As an Australian who paid a ridiculous amount in fines for not wearing a mask I'm wondering if I can use Marvin's material related to the Australian alleged isolation.
I really hope this helps you Petra! Keep in mind, "fraud unravels all". So even though you already paid, you might be able to get your $$ back.
FYI: we have several FOIs from Australia that might also help, see these 2 pages: (use the search function on your browser to find all references to Australia):
Dear Christine, from a legal perspective, the arguments available in Germany are NOT available in the United States. Note, under American jurisprudence, "facts" are accepted or rejected by triers of fact (a jury or a judge - and many states require defendants to pay for juries and court time, regardless of the outcome). If an American were charged with being in public or not wearing a mask, a defense that the lockdown was based on a declaration of presence of fairy dust, and that fairy dust does NOT exist, is irrelevant.
I think that the ONLY way to challenge is to demand a Declaratory Judgment that compels local cops to SHOW that a person is contagious or at risk of being infected.
I have asked Aaron Siri - multiple times - but no reply. (surprise). Best
That's insane, but I've heard similar in regards to water fluoridation. In 3 separate cases the judges agreed that WF seems to cause excess mortality from cancer, but didn't have the authority to stop it.
I doubt this is going to get anywhere. Even if it does, it's going to be ignored by the media and buried because this issue is not just about virology but it is about a more profound lie at the root of so-called science - scientism. Remember that if viruses don't exist then they didn't evolve. This would make people question the validity of the theory of evolution and the origins of life. The greatest lie is about making sure that people don't ask the ultimate question in the end: if virology is a lie, maybe other sciences are a lie too, like evolutionary theory, cosmology like the Copernican Principle.
Remember, the first thing that evolutionary scientists jumped on was that the "novel" SARS COV2 must have evolved because that's what evolution does, it invents new life forms. Not one of the evolutionary experts would admit now how wrong they were. So, they had no choice but to switch their theory to a lab leak because the third possibility is not even allowed to be entertained...because when one lie is exposed the domino effect may not stop...
REAL things can evolve by mutating. E.g., pelargoniums w/ green leaves can mutate into a variety w/ variegated leaves. Viruses can't mutate for the same reason that unicorns can't.
Even if viruses could mutate, as claimed by virologists and evolutionary biologists, they would not get more lethal or contagious as population genetics clearly proves the great majority of mutations are deleterious leading to mutational meltdown and therefore cannot improve anything especially a dead particles called viruses...
I haven't been making claims about any alleged cause of disease. I'm simply helping to refute the virus hypothesis, and pointing out that many things cause/contribute to symptoms.
While this experiment is supposed to prove how bacteria evolves antibiotic resistance - it doesn't. It proves devolution largely by breaking genes - it clearly shows how antibiotic resistance works in many diseases in humans that are hard to treat because the bacteria developed antibiotic resistance. Is simple terms, you have patients with the same bacterial infection that spread in a hospital ward of whom some respond to antibiotics and some don't.
You can predict with high accuracy that those who don't most likely have antibiotic resistance by either horizontal gene transfer as the main mechanism or other mechanism but not as common in bacteria. Samples taken from those patients and grown in the lab prove your predictions with very high accuracy.
Sure, but to make a claim that some things cause or contribute to symptoms is thin at best unless you can prove it by the scientific method preferably...
Have you ever been to a hospital ward full of elderly and vulnerable people of whom most develop the same or similar symptoms within few days? And few more days go by and many of them develop pneumonia...
If you are a doctor or a nurse and say: no no no; what they are experiencing is not contagious. It is the toxins found in food, medicines and in the air. How do you prove your point?
BTW: you probably already know I realize dead viruses, if exist, do not cause anything but this is just a part of the story...
The 'gene theory' and the 'evolution theory' are both impossible to prove by the scientific method (with control groups), hence do not qualify as a hypothesis.
So we are witnessing the retardation of the elites who have been so vaccine injured that they started to believe the lies installed by their more cleaver ancestors.
I've realized you are confused about the issue that's why I had asked for clarification. There is a big difference between DNA - Deoxyribonucleic acid - and a definition of "gene". Those are two different things.
I'm not going to get into polemics with people who lack fundamental knowledge about things they claim to have discovered something to be fraudulent about...
It was already established in Germany's highest court that measles virus was never shown to exist, thanks to Stefan Lanka. The media is corrupt, but that's true no matter what we do. Regardless, the truth is coming out and people are better off thanks to actions such as Marvin's. And btw, they dropped the case against him:
What's changed ever since Lanka won the measels court case? One the greatest scams in the history of "SCIENCE" world happened - SARS COV2. You should ask yourself what is next?
Dear Tomas Hull, the current BIG vax moves are for diarrhea (caused by the current vax used on kids), and malaria (aka being malnourished), and cancer. So, the "virus" scare card will be played until people wake up and say, NO!
Lots has changed, lots of people have caught onto the fraud of virology. There's been an enormous shift in the last couple of years, and Dr. Lanka's work is largely responsible for it.
While it is true some people realize something is wrong, 99% of scientists and doctors don't care or are afraid to even entertain the idea that there may be something wrong with the fundamental assumptions of mainstream sciences, like virology. The whole system is so corrupt it is beyond reform.
I knew a long time ago something was wrong with virology when I learned quantum mechanics application in biology in the theory of evolution. When I realized that even if viruses exist they are dead by any of 150 plus definitions of life. So, when the pandemic was announced and my hospital in Toronto and other ones were empty, I realized this was not about a pathogen. It was politics.
This does not mean the whole germ theory is wrong. Leprosy, or Hanson's disease, is just one of many examples that can be proven by the scientific method with controls. I'm working on it.
'The collective silence' is like a colossus. The Big Lie that towers above us all. King Convid! Yet it's a vacuous hollow that will be toppled and swept away by a tsunami of truthful scientific scrutiny and empowered common sense.
When i clicked on the URL for the interview, i got a very strange response, was told my browser couldn't open this, i would have to do it so via a different website, because the video was embedded on another page. I did get to Odyssey, got this URL which you can go to directly. An hour and 23 minutes, The Case Against Virology.
Are you referring to the court date he had last October? That was cancelled due to the judge getting sick, this is the rescheduled case (with a different judge, same matter).
That case involved Lanka being sued for not providing an award he offered in return for proof of isolation of the measles "virus." This current case involves Haberland facing government fines for non-compliance. Different matters. This is in fact mentioned during the interview.
You missed the part where Lanka took it to their supreme court & it sided w/ him & said he didn't have to pay the award because the other guy didn't prove the existence of measles.
I didn't miss that at all, why do you say that? I merely described what his case was about, unlike Haberland he was not facing a government penalty but a suit from someone demanding money.
Update: the case against Marvin was dropped!
A quick and very satisfying update from NEXT LEVEL - Wissen neu gedacht on Telegram (https://t.me/NextLevelOriginal)!
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A small victory for NEXT LEVEL - a big one for the people ❗️
In short: Our spokesman Marvin Haberland won the process as expected, in which the court dropped the case and assumed the costs.
The subtleties in it are the great victory:
a) We went into this process without a lawyer
No lawyer wanted to defend us by supporting our strategy. So we didn't have any legal fees. So it works without it.
b) Our strategy is direct and clear
It aims to clarify the lack of scientific knowledge in virology in court, as Paragraph 1 of the Infection Protection Act requires it.
c) We have shown that the measures based on an imaginary virus are not justifiable and unsustainable.
d) As has been shown, no complicated strategies are required, no 400-page indictments. Only the basis must be attacked.
e) The possible avalanche effect
If many people followed our reasoning, either all fines would probably be stopped, or someone would go to the next instance, where the scientific nature would then have to be clarified.
f) Our strategy and expertise, as well as the non-rebuttable motions of evidence, were well known to all involved, both the judicial apparatus and the many staff who we contacted throughout to make it clear that we look forward to the trial. Perhaps this was also one of the reasons why our process was constantly being postponed and unclear statements were made by the employees.
Particularly important:
If the court, the state and others knew something that would allow them to make a legal example of us with regard to our requests for evidence, they certainly would have done so. So they obviously used the simplest "escape option" and simply stopped the process.
A notice:
We get our chance, we don't give up. Virology will get huge problems, we are sure.
We would like to thank all supporters who have the courage to do the right thing. YOU ARE WORLD CLASS ❤️🙏🏻
🎥 Here for the interview after the trial (incl. survey of the trial observers)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xChZorQ8cxU
Virus in court - Marvin's court hearing
Supported by almost 100 spectators, Marvin's trial at the Hamburg District Court took place on April 26 in Hamburg, which was supposed to bring down the whole virology. See what we experienced here.
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This is fantastic news, Christine, and I'm so sorry that I'm only aware of it through your substack ... although very glad at least you're publicising it. I haven't read anything yet but will get onto it very soon. As an Australian who paid a ridiculous amount in fines for not wearing a mask I'm wondering if I can use Marvin's material related to the Australian alleged isolation.
I really hope this helps you Petra! Keep in mind, "fraud unravels all". So even though you already paid, you might be able to get your $$ back.
FYI: we have several FOIs from Australia that might also help, see these 2 pages: (use the search function on your browser to find all references to Australia):
https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/fois-reveal-that-health-science-institutions-around-the-world-have-no-record-of-sars-cov-2-isolation-purification/
https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/do-virologists-perform-valid-control-experiments-is-virology-a-science/
Thanks, Christine. I knew about the FOIs but the fact that someone has won in court with that information makes them so much more compelling.
Dear Christine, from a legal perspective, the arguments available in Germany are NOT available in the United States. Note, under American jurisprudence, "facts" are accepted or rejected by triers of fact (a jury or a judge - and many states require defendants to pay for juries and court time, regardless of the outcome). If an American were charged with being in public or not wearing a mask, a defense that the lockdown was based on a declaration of presence of fairy dust, and that fairy dust does NOT exist, is irrelevant.
I think that the ONLY way to challenge is to demand a Declaratory Judgment that compels local cops to SHOW that a person is contagious or at risk of being infected.
I have asked Aaron Siri - multiple times - but no reply. (surprise). Best
That's insane, but I've heard similar in regards to water fluoridation. In 3 separate cases the judges agreed that WF seems to cause excess mortality from cancer, but didn't have the authority to stop it.
I doubt this is going to get anywhere. Even if it does, it's going to be ignored by the media and buried because this issue is not just about virology but it is about a more profound lie at the root of so-called science - scientism. Remember that if viruses don't exist then they didn't evolve. This would make people question the validity of the theory of evolution and the origins of life. The greatest lie is about making sure that people don't ask the ultimate question in the end: if virology is a lie, maybe other sciences are a lie too, like evolutionary theory, cosmology like the Copernican Principle.
Remember, the first thing that evolutionary scientists jumped on was that the "novel" SARS COV2 must have evolved because that's what evolution does, it invents new life forms. Not one of the evolutionary experts would admit now how wrong they were. So, they had no choice but to switch their theory to a lab leak because the third possibility is not even allowed to be entertained...because when one lie is exposed the domino effect may not stop...
REAL things can evolve by mutating. E.g., pelargoniums w/ green leaves can mutate into a variety w/ variegated leaves. Viruses can't mutate for the same reason that unicorns can't.
Even if viruses could mutate, as claimed by virologists and evolutionary biologists, they would not get more lethal or contagious as population genetics clearly proves the great majority of mutations are deleterious leading to mutational meltdown and therefore cannot improve anything especially a dead particles called viruses...
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41437-020-0314-z/
You need to prove a virus exists before discussing mutations lol.
I get it. Terrain theorists face similar problem not to mention applying the scientific method to even dream about making an argument...
One thing is obvious that both sides tend to omit: ageing leading to inevitable death cannot be prevented...
There is no limit to the amount of conjecture which can be applied to the purely theoretical.
I haven't been making claims about any alleged cause of disease. I'm simply helping to refute the virus hypothesis, and pointing out that many things cause/contribute to symptoms.
While this experiment is supposed to prove how bacteria evolves antibiotic resistance - it doesn't. It proves devolution largely by breaking genes - it clearly shows how antibiotic resistance works in many diseases in humans that are hard to treat because the bacteria developed antibiotic resistance. Is simple terms, you have patients with the same bacterial infection that spread in a hospital ward of whom some respond to antibiotics and some don't.
You can predict with high accuracy that those who don't most likely have antibiotic resistance by either horizontal gene transfer as the main mechanism or other mechanism but not as common in bacteria. Samples taken from those patients and grown in the lab prove your predictions with very high accuracy.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/09/08/492965889/watch-bacteria-invade-antibiotics-and-transform-into-superbugs
Sure, but to make a claim that some things cause or contribute to symptoms is thin at best unless you can prove it by the scientific method preferably...
Have you ever been to a hospital ward full of elderly and vulnerable people of whom most develop the same or similar symptoms within few days? And few more days go by and many of them develop pneumonia...
If you are a doctor or a nurse and say: no no no; what they are experiencing is not contagious. It is the toxins found in food, medicines and in the air. How do you prove your point?
BTW: you probably already know I realize dead viruses, if exist, do not cause anything but this is just a part of the story...
The 'gene theory' and the 'evolution theory' are both impossible to prove by the scientific method (with control groups), hence do not qualify as a hypothesis.
So we are witnessing the retardation of the elites who have been so vaccine injured that they started to believe the lies installed by their more cleaver ancestors.
Take the victory when it presents itself.
What''s a gene theory?
The DNA hereditary hypothesis.
The 'discovery' of the DNA structure was fraudulent:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nucleic_acid_double_helix
I've realized you are confused about the issue that's why I had asked for clarification. There is a big difference between DNA - Deoxyribonucleic acid - and a definition of "gene". Those are two different things.
I'm not going to get into polemics with people who lack fundamental knowledge about things they claim to have discovered something to be fraudulent about...
Gene and DNA/RNA are the same thing colloquially. And yes, you lack the fundamental knowledge about things.
Congratulations! lol
It was already established in Germany's highest court that measles virus was never shown to exist, thanks to Stefan Lanka. The media is corrupt, but that's true no matter what we do. Regardless, the truth is coming out and people are better off thanks to actions such as Marvin's. And btw, they dropped the case against him:
https://christinemasseyfois.substack.com/p/victory-in-court-virology-indefensible
What's changed ever since Lanka won the measels court case? One the greatest scams in the history of "SCIENCE" world happened - SARS COV2. You should ask yourself what is next?
Dear Tomas Hull, the current BIG vax moves are for diarrhea (caused by the current vax used on kids), and malaria (aka being malnourished), and cancer. So, the "virus" scare card will be played until people wake up and say, NO!
Lots has changed, lots of people have caught onto the fraud of virology. There's been an enormous shift in the last couple of years, and Dr. Lanka's work is largely responsible for it.
While it is true some people realize something is wrong, 99% of scientists and doctors don't care or are afraid to even entertain the idea that there may be something wrong with the fundamental assumptions of mainstream sciences, like virology. The whole system is so corrupt it is beyond reform.
I knew a long time ago something was wrong with virology when I learned quantum mechanics application in biology in the theory of evolution. When I realized that even if viruses exist they are dead by any of 150 plus definitions of life. So, when the pandemic was announced and my hospital in Toronto and other ones were empty, I realized this was not about a pathogen. It was politics.
This does not mean the whole germ theory is wrong. Leprosy, or Hanson's disease, is just one of many examples that can be proven by the scientific method with controls. I'm working on it.
Cite the proof.
How could it be if experts like you and your supporters didn't even bother to look up that leprosy and Hanson's disease is the same thing...
No wonder there is confusion among people who have never seen a lab from the inside...
'The collective silence' is like a colossus. The Big Lie that towers above us all. King Convid! Yet it's a vacuous hollow that will be toppled and swept away by a tsunami of truthful scientific scrutiny and empowered common sense.
Thank you Christine for bringing this to our attention. This is going to be interesting!
God Bless you and your endeavors.
Thank you Dennis. Lots of people are catching on, it's so wonderful to see.
Should be interesting....
Lots of good info plus Kate's interview with Marvin and an English transcript of the first 25 minutes on Truth Comes to Light dot com in case the link I'm going to include isn't accepted. https://truthcomestolight.com/marvin-haberland-katie-sugak-on-the-court-case-against-virology-april-26-2023-in-hamburg-germany/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
Hi all
Best wishes and blessings for the court case. Thinking and praying for all involved. Good luck
to all.
Good luck Joe!
When i clicked on the URL for the interview, i got a very strange response, was told my browser couldn't open this, i would have to do it so via a different website, because the video was embedded on another page. I did get to Odyssey, got this URL which you can go to directly. An hour and 23 minutes, The Case Against Virology.
https://odysee.com/$/embed/@katie.su:7/thecourtcaseagainstvirology:0?r=6oXqknZEoT1GDb19SgQyVEkNKtP5WvtT
Thank you for the link; looks really interesting.
I remember Marvin Haberland from a conversation with Tom Cowan and another with Sam Bailey
https://www.bitchute.com/video/LDr95jG08oa0/
https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/Marvin-vs-Virology-COVID-Taken-To-Court:3
What, AGAIN?
Are you referring to the court date he had last October? That was cancelled due to the judge getting sick, this is the rescheduled case (with a different judge, same matter).
I was referring to Stefan Lanka running virology, or at least measles "virus", through the courts--when? In 2015? ...before then?
That case involved Lanka being sued for not providing an award he offered in return for proof of isolation of the measles "virus." This current case involves Haberland facing government fines for non-compliance. Different matters. This is in fact mentioned during the interview.
You missed the part where Lanka took it to their supreme court & it sided w/ him & said he didn't have to pay the award because the other guy didn't prove the existence of measles.
I didn't miss that at all, why do you say that? I merely described what his case was about, unlike Haberland he was not facing a government penalty but a suit from someone demanding money.
I'm sorry, I thought that THE POINT was that virology is fraud.
This is for SARS-COV-2.