Hi Dr. Love. I've not watched your interview, but it sounds from your description that we are coming at this from very different angles. I'm pointing out that there is no scientific evidence of the alleged virus, natural or manmade (or contagion). These alleged particles (with the specific "genomes" and proteins) have never been found in anyone let alone shown to inject and hijack cells, replicate and cause a contagious illness. Cheers.
Yes, "Bird Flu" is NOT a floating "virus" contagion as governments and pharmaceutical companies want us to believe.
"Bird Flu" is being injected into live stock via "vaccinations". Bird Flu is a weaponized military technology designed to take out live stock to create food shortage (depopulation). The "vaccinations" given to live stock is the same technology as the Covid-19 jabs. I know because I read the patents. These live stock inoculations contain graphene oxide nanotech which becomes aerosolized after subcutaneous injection, spreading to other animals and sometimes even humans. This is the ONLY way an animal disease (bioweapon) can jump from animals to humans. So, on the one hand this is a real threat perpetrated by governments but it's not what they want us to believe that it is.
My advice? STOP all "vaccination" injections which is ALL gene altering government technology these days! There's no actual vaccines anymore. Research and find the natural solutions to keep your live stock healthy. There's absolutely no need to inject an animal with a Gain-and-Loss-of-Function bioweapon under the guise of "vaccination". This insane medical tyranny STOPS when WE stop it!
Can you please cite valid evidence of this (aerosolization of something in the quackcines that is detected with the tests and spreads to other animals where it causes more dis-ease)?
I agree of course that there is zero reason for anyone or any animal to be quackcinated and that one does so at their peril. (I am skeptical that graphene exists at all, based on the claim that is is 1-9 atoms thick but no doubt there are dangerous ingredients in the injections.) Cheers.
Thank you so much for what you are doing Christine. In looking at the results you have gotten, I wonder if you would be able to obtain FOIA results on Measles, Mumps, Varicella, etc.? I think if we are going to get these types of results for things like Avian Influenza, then that would mean that they have never had proof to justify mass killings and or mass vaccinations of chickens and other livestock. H1N1 which is disputed has been blamed for swine and avian influenza viruses, this occurred during the Spanish Flu, then in 1976 and again in 2009, it was said that H1N1 was the cause each time even though during Spanish Flu it was originally blamed on horse manure, then it was changed later on to avian sources, then the Swine Flu of 1976 was of course blamed on a pig. If it is the case that there is no proof of any isolation, than maybe we are talking about a terrain problem and not a germ problem, then it may be safe to say that it would be the same results from something like Measles, in other words, then it is only a killer if there is something internally and externally going on as noted by many such as Dr. Nancy Banks, if anyone has not seen or read her work, she is brilliant.
Yes, we have lots of FOI responses on other alleged viruses, including all of those covered by so-called "immunization" schedules. You can find them all on this page:
The program is bigger than it first appears. Here are some insights about fertility and reversing infertility with a special section on the vaxx connection.
I just recently read Sayer Ji’s Feb 21 article “the truth about…avian flu…” featuring Joel Salatin. Disappointing to see Sayer steer his vast audience away from the most important truth about the nonexistent “virus”. In a subtle way he continues to perpetuate the virus superstition. Why is Sayer afraid of the whole truth?
Thanks, CM!! You're like a engine that runs on Proof of Troof! xo
Hey did you hear about the 400 ostriches in Canada that are scheduled to be slaughtered because of this Bird Flu fuckery?? Maybe you could help them? So horrible!! Eating certain animals, if the farmers are merciful and decent, is one thing, but just killing critters for NO REASON is so evil... And they KNOW what they're doing, these evil cullers.
Not the point, MOST of the govt's that respond to FOIA requests are full of moo poo. The point is, they must, by law, respond, and give up the paperwork for whatever it is... So far, NOBODY has ANY evidence of any virus!
Sorry to hear Scotland has the same sickness in govt. as the US... Love you guys.
Thank you Christine. Great analysis & evaluation. The Scot Gov behaviour indicates they view citizens with utter contempt. Despite supposedly wanting independence they are just another authoritanion Gov bloated with bureaucracy. Ministers getting rich from public purse. And I have met 2 of them. For what in return? Their behaviour and of Police Scotland during C19 lockdowns an utter disgrace.
Thanks for confirming that these morons know nothing. Murdering livestock over....nothing. Symptoms include....nothing, laying eggs, squawking, clucking, scratching and sleeping.
Remember the monkeypox - orthopox virus supposedly - same virus that supposedly infects cattle (cowpox). Sent many FOI requests in the UK to various agencies - none have any evidence of the orthopox virus in situ, or isolated and purified.
As long as the fake science is on the idiot box, the sheeple will believe.
Thanks again, Christine. One more global entity admits it has no firm physical scientific evidence to back up the measures it and others like it are implementing to fight an alleged threat to public health. Nothing but computer models all the way down. This is while fears of bird flu are being hyped to hysterical heights.
This is supremely, breathtakingly a big fat lie, in my opinion-- I don't trust ANYBODY in govt, and esp. anybody very high up!
Think about this, if you haven't already:
The Nasties have spent DECADES planning this whole thing, all these various aspects of it. They've infiltrated courts, they've infiltrated and bribed govt officials, local, national, etc.
They've maneuvered and manipulated other govt's all over the world, except possibly Africa, and maybe some of those, too.
The sheer magnitude of this Globalist Agenda is overwhelming and VAST...
How would they ALLOW one guy, and his team, obviously, but-- ONE GUY, the Donald, to come in and UNDO alllllllll that stuff they've put into place? I just don't see that happening. I don't see it as a possibility. If they didn't already have DJT, he'd be dead long ago.
I Concur, all the way back to the first ww and the subsequent illegal Balfour declaration to the 1930's and the lead up to the second ww but what really got my goat was that all the nations liberated from the N's by the ''allied'' have all become obedient vassal states serving empire, all that and more it would be nice to have a discussion about that however this might not be the right place, if you like I'll dedicate a page on my substack.
I thought this was YOU writing this, but no matter, since you "get it," I say THANK YOU for giving it to me... VERY eye-opening and NOT surprising, and it's good to have a closer view of what is behind most of the EVIL going on right now. Cheers.
please keep in touch, Finn… Things are happening right now so fast I need a bit of time to just get situated … Moving tomorrow, into a GOOD thing from a NOT GREAT thing; found something that is maybe, hopefully, my True Calling, JUST NOW, lol, and there are SO MANY THINGS GOING ON RIGHT NOW… Let me get it together, okay… email me if you’d like, and we can converse that way… Jaan.Carter@protonmail.com I’ll be able to chat a bit probably Saturday or Sunday afternoon… I’m on PDT, which is near Seattle, WA, USA. If you are GMT, you’re 8 hours ahead of me (I have friends in England, too). Okay, cheers, I’m so excited right now, but I have MANY interests… Thanks! xo
No body can find a Cov19 or a bird flu virus. The robins aren’t all falling dead in the back yard. But no worries, we are now importing eggs from Turkey.
Two main contributions to the world by the German SOCIALIST Workers Party of Hitler, aka NAZIs, next to the Holocaust, 80 million dead in WWII, are crystal meth. And People’s Wagons. The VW’s that cheated on emissions testing. After the Berlin Olympics where a black Jessie Owens beat Hitler’s master race, he tasked Berlin with making crystal meth. German and Austrian Socialist Fascists put crystal meth in everything from coffee to chocolate.
You would think that all these institutions would have evidence pf isolated viruses but this is how they get out of it (according to their mouthpiece otherwise known as ChatGPT): Scientific institutions are not obligated to archive every experiment in an FOI-accessible manner.
Research findings are published in peer-reviewed journals, not stored in government FOI databases.
I received this response to one of your earlier blogs on the subject of punlic health agencies who were unable to provide evidence of the SARS-Cov-2 virus. What is the best way to answer them point by point?
1. FOI Requests Are Not a Scientific Tool
🔹 Your Claim:
If no health institution has FOI records proving SARS-CoV-2 was purified and isolated, it means the virus does not exist.
🔹 Scientific Response:
FOI requests are legal, administrative tools—not scientific methods.
These requests are meant to obtain government documents, not primary research data.
Scientific institutions are not obligated to archive every experiment in an FOI-accessible manner.
Research findings are published in peer-reviewed journals, not stored in government FOI databases.
✅ Example: Direct Evidence of SARS-CoV-2 Isolation
The virus has been isolated, purified, and sequenced by researchers worldwide.
Peer-reviewed papers document this process:
Harcourt et al. (CDC, 2020): Isolated SARS-CoV-2 from human lung fluid, confirmed by electron microscopy.
Zhu et al. (New England Journal of Medicine, 2020): Used cryo-electron microscopy to image the virus.
Kim et al. (Cell, 2020): Sequenced SARS-CoV-2 without relying on Vero cells.
🔹 Key Point:
FOI responses do not invalidate published experimental evidence.
2. SARS-CoV-2 Has Been Purified and Imaged
🔹 Your Claim:
SARS-CoV-2 has never been "isolated" or "purified" because studies use monkey kidney (Vero) cells.
🔹 Scientific Response:
Virus isolation does not require cell cultures—it has been done directly from patients.
Multiple techniques isolate SARS-CoV-2 without using Vero cells:
Ultracentrifugation and Density Gradient Separation
Electron Microscopy (TEM, Cryo-EM)
Nanopore Sequencing
✅ Example: Direct Purification Without Vero Cells
Ogando et al. (2020, Nature Communications) purified SARS-CoV-2 directly from patient samples using ultracentrifugation.
Electron microscopy images show intact viral particles in purified samples.
🔹 Key Point:
SARS-CoV-2 has been physically isolated, purified, and imaged without Vero cells.
3. The Definition of "Isolation" in Virology
🔹 Your Claim:
Virologists redefine “isolation” to mean the opposite of what it normally means.
🔹 Scientific Response:
In virology, "isolation" means obtaining a pure viral sample that can replicate and be studied.
The scientific definition of isolation is not the same as purification.
Isolation = Extracting a virus from a host and showing it can replicate.
Purification = Further separating the virus from all other material.
✅ Example: Koch’s Postulates Applied to SARS-CoV-2
Virus is found in sick patients (lung fluid samples).
Virus is isolated and grown in cultures.
Purified virus infects test subjects and causes the same disease.
Virus is re-isolated from newly infected hosts.
🔹 Key Point:
Virologists do not redefine isolation—they use a precise scientific definition based on experimental methods.
4. Genetic Sequencing Confirms SARS-CoV-2 as a Unique Virus
🔹 Your Claim:
If SARS-CoV-2 has never been properly isolated, then all genetic sequences are fabricated.
🔹 Scientific Response:
The virus has been sequenced directly from patient samples without culturing.
Global genomic databases (GISAID, Nextstrain) confirm identical sequences from independent sources.
Sequencing techniques that do not rely on templates exist:
De novo assembly reconstructs viral genomes without a reference.
✅ Example: Independent Sequencing of SARS-CoV-2
Rambaut et al. (Nature, 2020): Independently sequenced SARS-CoV-2 from patients.
Over 15 million genomes have been sequenced worldwide, all matching the original Wuhan strain with known mutations.
🔹 Key Point:
SARS-CoV-2 is a genetically distinct, independently sequenced virus—not an artifact.
5. FOI Requests Do Not Replace Experimental Science
🔹 Your Claim:
Since institutions could not provide FOI records, the virus does not exist.
🔹 Scientific Response:
FOI officers cannot provide data that is already publicly available in scientific journals.
Thousands of peer-reviewed papers describe SARS-CoV-2 isolation and sequencing.
The FOI approach is a legal loophole, not a scientific method.
✅ Example: Why FOI Requests Often "Fail"
If an FOI request asks for “proof of virus isolation,” institutions may decline because they are not research archives.
The CDC, WHO, and multiple universities have published evidence of SARS-CoV-2 isolation—but these may not be cataloged in FOI-accessible formats.
🔹 Key Point:
The absence of FOI records does not equal the absence of scientific evidence.
Final Verdict: The SARS-CoV-2 Virus Exists, Independently Confirmed
🔴 Your Argument’s Core Issue:
FOI requests are not scientific evidence.
Virology uses precise, reproducible methods for isolation and sequencing.
Multiple independent labs have directly purified and imaged SARS-CoV-2.
✅ Overwhelming Evidence Shows:
SARS-CoV-2 has been isolated, purified, and sequenced worldwide.
Thousands of independent labs have published peer-reviewed studies confirming its existence.
FOI responses do not replace experimental data.
🔹 Bottom Line:
The claim that SARS-CoV-2 has not been isolated is scientifically incorrect.
They might not be legally "obligated" to archive every experiment, but logically they would be expected to have valid evidence on hand and if they were credible, they would. This is especially true for the institutions (i..e CDC, universities) that are directly involved in so-called "isolation" and "sequencing" etc. But the fact is that they all have a grand total of zero valid scientific studies that demonstrate their virus/germ/contagion claims. It doesn't matter which institution we ask or which 'germ' we ask about, there is always nothing.
And the FOIs were inspired by what was already known/seen in the 'germ' literature - it's all pseudoscience. Anyways, I have never claimed that FOI requests are a scientific tool! As usual, ChatGPT lies and cannot cite any valid evidence either.
Here's my interview with Stew Peters on the origin of the H1N5 "Bird Flu" which is a Gain-and-Loss-of-Function bioweapon created by the NIH!
I gave this interview two years ago! So for those who wish to diminish my work, just remember, I was first to break this news!
NIH Using DEAD CORPSES To Make "Virus"; Gain Of Function Weaponized Dead Corpses
https://rumble.com/v29apb0-nih-using-dead-corpses-to-make-virus-gain-of-function-weaponized-dead-corps.html
Hi Dr. Love. I've not watched your interview, but it sounds from your description that we are coming at this from very different angles. I'm pointing out that there is no scientific evidence of the alleged virus, natural or manmade (or contagion). These alleged particles (with the specific "genomes" and proteins) have never been found in anyone let alone shown to inject and hijack cells, replicate and cause a contagious illness. Cheers.
Yes, "Bird Flu" is NOT a floating "virus" contagion as governments and pharmaceutical companies want us to believe.
"Bird Flu" is being injected into live stock via "vaccinations". Bird Flu is a weaponized military technology designed to take out live stock to create food shortage (depopulation). The "vaccinations" given to live stock is the same technology as the Covid-19 jabs. I know because I read the patents. These live stock inoculations contain graphene oxide nanotech which becomes aerosolized after subcutaneous injection, spreading to other animals and sometimes even humans. This is the ONLY way an animal disease (bioweapon) can jump from animals to humans. So, on the one hand this is a real threat perpetrated by governments but it's not what they want us to believe that it is.
My advice? STOP all "vaccination" injections which is ALL gene altering government technology these days! There's no actual vaccines anymore. Research and find the natural solutions to keep your live stock healthy. There's absolutely no need to inject an animal with a Gain-and-Loss-of-Function bioweapon under the guise of "vaccination". This insane medical tyranny STOPS when WE stop it!
Can you please cite valid evidence of this (aerosolization of something in the quackcines that is detected with the tests and spreads to other animals where it causes more dis-ease)?
I agree of course that there is zero reason for anyone or any animal to be quackcinated and that one does so at their peril. (I am skeptical that graphene exists at all, based on the claim that is is 1-9 atoms thick but no doubt there are dangerous ingredients in the injections.) Cheers.
Thank you so much for what you are doing Christine. In looking at the results you have gotten, I wonder if you would be able to obtain FOIA results on Measles, Mumps, Varicella, etc.? I think if we are going to get these types of results for things like Avian Influenza, then that would mean that they have never had proof to justify mass killings and or mass vaccinations of chickens and other livestock. H1N1 which is disputed has been blamed for swine and avian influenza viruses, this occurred during the Spanish Flu, then in 1976 and again in 2009, it was said that H1N1 was the cause each time even though during Spanish Flu it was originally blamed on horse manure, then it was changed later on to avian sources, then the Swine Flu of 1976 was of course blamed on a pig. If it is the case that there is no proof of any isolation, than maybe we are talking about a terrain problem and not a germ problem, then it may be safe to say that it would be the same results from something like Measles, in other words, then it is only a killer if there is something internally and externally going on as noted by many such as Dr. Nancy Banks, if anyone has not seen or read her work, she is brilliant.
Sofia Smallstorm Interviews Dr. Nancy Banks: https://youtu.be/vIX4ijTKXJw?si=1AQUe2k37Pv0vdTk
Yes, we have lots of FOI responses on other alleged viruses, including all of those covered by so-called "immunization" schedules. You can find them all on this page:
https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/fois-reveal-that-health-science-institutions-have-no-record-of-any-virus-having-been-isolated-purified-virology-isnt-a-science/
Thank you - I have heard of Dr. Banks but never read any of her work or seen an interview.
Thankyou Christine. Xo
The program is bigger than it first appears. Here are some insights about fertility and reversing infertility with a special section on the vaxx connection.
https://open.substack.com/pub/soberchristiangentlemanpodcast/p/thoughts-on-infertility-fertility?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=31s3eo
Thank you Christine.
I just recently read Sayer Ji’s Feb 21 article “the truth about…avian flu…” featuring Joel Salatin. Disappointing to see Sayer steer his vast audience away from the most important truth about the nonexistent “virus”. In a subtle way he continues to perpetuate the virus superstition. Why is Sayer afraid of the whole truth?
https://sayerji.substack.com/p/joel-salatin-the-truth-about-mass?utm_source=post-banner&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=posts-open-in-app&triedRedirect=true
Thanks Jeff. I've left a comment there.
Thanks, CM!! You're like a engine that runs on Proof of Troof! xo
Hey did you hear about the 400 ostriches in Canada that are scheduled to be slaughtered because of this Bird Flu fuckery?? Maybe you could help them? So horrible!! Eating certain animals, if the farmers are merciful and decent, is one thing, but just killing critters for NO REASON is so evil... And they KNOW what they're doing, these evil cullers.
Scottish Government - an oxymoron in every sense
Not the point, MOST of the govt's that respond to FOIA requests are full of moo poo. The point is, they must, by law, respond, and give up the paperwork for whatever it is... So far, NOBODY has ANY evidence of any virus!
Sorry to hear Scotland has the same sickness in govt. as the US... Love you guys.
Thank you Christine. Great analysis & evaluation. The Scot Gov behaviour indicates they view citizens with utter contempt. Despite supposedly wanting independence they are just another authoritanion Gov bloated with bureaucracy. Ministers getting rich from public purse. And I have met 2 of them. For what in return? Their behaviour and of Police Scotland during C19 lockdowns an utter disgrace.
Part of the "Five Eyes"-- they're ALL like that, unfortunately.
Hi Christine, can you please add the Swedish Television to your media list.
mailto:svtnyheter@svt.se
Thanks ♥️👍
Ok done, thank you.
Thanks for confirming that these morons know nothing. Murdering livestock over....nothing. Symptoms include....nothing, laying eggs, squawking, clucking, scratching and sleeping.
Remember the monkeypox - orthopox virus supposedly - same virus that supposedly infects cattle (cowpox). Sent many FOI requests in the UK to various agencies - none have any evidence of the orthopox virus in situ, or isolated and purified.
As long as the fake science is on the idiot box, the sheeple will believe.
I think they DO know. THEY KNOW. This is just Evil.
Thanks again, Christine. One more global entity admits it has no firm physical scientific evidence to back up the measures it and others like it are implementing to fight an alleged threat to public health. Nothing but computer models all the way down. This is while fears of bird flu are being hyped to hysterical heights.
While it looks good I still don't trust them,
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION CONSIDERING COVID JAB SUSPENSION FOR ALL AGE GROUPS
https://dailytelegraph.co.nz/news/trump-administration-considering-covid-jab-suspension-for-all-age-groups/
This is supremely, breathtakingly a big fat lie, in my opinion-- I don't trust ANYBODY in govt, and esp. anybody very high up!
Think about this, if you haven't already:
The Nasties have spent DECADES planning this whole thing, all these various aspects of it. They've infiltrated courts, they've infiltrated and bribed govt officials, local, national, etc.
They've maneuvered and manipulated other govt's all over the world, except possibly Africa, and maybe some of those, too.
The sheer magnitude of this Globalist Agenda is overwhelming and VAST...
How would they ALLOW one guy, and his team, obviously, but-- ONE GUY, the Donald, to come in and UNDO alllllllll that stuff they've put into place? I just don't see that happening. I don't see it as a possibility. If they didn't already have DJT, he'd be dead long ago.
I Concur, all the way back to the first ww and the subsequent illegal Balfour declaration to the 1930's and the lead up to the second ww but what really got my goat was that all the nations liberated from the N's by the ''allied'' have all become obedient vassal states serving empire, all that and more it would be nice to have a discussion about that however this might not be the right place, if you like I'll dedicate a page on my substack.
I thought this was YOU writing this, but no matter, since you "get it," I say THANK YOU for giving it to me... VERY eye-opening and NOT surprising, and it's good to have a closer view of what is behind most of the EVIL going on right now. Cheers.
Don’t know if I answered this or not, but… GO for it!! I will read it. ^_^
Read this, https://realleft.substack.com/p/the-bank-for-international-settlements?publication_id=2320527&post_id=157634692&isFreemail=true&r=1h688z&triedRedirect=true
I read about 1/3 so far, gotta get arf line, but I'll FINNish it tomorrow!
So far, it is sounding pretty dang FAMILIAR...
(And how about the Divine Right of the Rest of Us, after all?)
Thanks, Finn!
And by all means, do a page on your Substack… I’ll subscribe.
please keep in touch, Finn… Things are happening right now so fast I need a bit of time to just get situated … Moving tomorrow, into a GOOD thing from a NOT GREAT thing; found something that is maybe, hopefully, my True Calling, JUST NOW, lol, and there are SO MANY THINGS GOING ON RIGHT NOW… Let me get it together, okay… email me if you’d like, and we can converse that way… Jaan.Carter@protonmail.com I’ll be able to chat a bit probably Saturday or Sunday afternoon… I’m on PDT, which is near Seattle, WA, USA. If you are GMT, you’re 8 hours ahead of me (I have friends in England, too). Okay, cheers, I’m so excited right now, but I have MANY interests… Thanks! xo
That's because vaccines are being reconfigured in general, which requires the current paradigm to be gotten rid of.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/7WLQoFrfNR0u/
Looking at the possible future of vaccines under MAHA:, Dr Tom Cowan, Webinar from February 19th, 2025, 51 Minutes.
Thanks, that makes sense.
Due to weak signal I'm not able to watch the clip, YT works while Bitchute has issues which I suspect is deliberate in order to deter people.
The YT version was struck out. Here's the Odysee one from last week, the new one might get posted there soon.
https://odysee.com/@lancewdetrick:b/IA---Dr.-Tom-Cowan---Q-A-Webinar-from-February-12th,-2025:d
RFKexposed.com
That one's a keeper, thanks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a6hu6Z7Pkg
Merely a diversion, they are going instead to deliver via bird flu vaccines to contaminate eggs 😢
No body can find a Cov19 or a bird flu virus. The robins aren’t all falling dead in the back yard. But no worries, we are now importing eggs from Turkey.
“Sir, it’s an egg!”~ Milo Minderbinder, Catch-22
Two main contributions to the world by the German SOCIALIST Workers Party of Hitler, aka NAZIs, next to the Holocaust, 80 million dead in WWII, are crystal meth. And People’s Wagons. The VW’s that cheated on emissions testing. After the Berlin Olympics where a black Jessie Owens beat Hitler’s master race, he tasked Berlin with making crystal meth. German and Austrian Socialist Fascists put crystal meth in everything from coffee to chocolate.
https://www.historyhit.com/volkswagen-the-peoples-car-of-nazi-germany/
You would think that all these institutions would have evidence pf isolated viruses but this is how they get out of it (according to their mouthpiece otherwise known as ChatGPT): Scientific institutions are not obligated to archive every experiment in an FOI-accessible manner.
Research findings are published in peer-reviewed journals, not stored in government FOI databases.
I received this response to one of your earlier blogs on the subject of punlic health agencies who were unable to provide evidence of the SARS-Cov-2 virus. What is the best way to answer them point by point?
1. FOI Requests Are Not a Scientific Tool
🔹 Your Claim:
If no health institution has FOI records proving SARS-CoV-2 was purified and isolated, it means the virus does not exist.
🔹 Scientific Response:
FOI requests are legal, administrative tools—not scientific methods.
These requests are meant to obtain government documents, not primary research data.
Scientific institutions are not obligated to archive every experiment in an FOI-accessible manner.
Research findings are published in peer-reviewed journals, not stored in government FOI databases.
✅ Example: Direct Evidence of SARS-CoV-2 Isolation
The virus has been isolated, purified, and sequenced by researchers worldwide.
Peer-reviewed papers document this process:
Harcourt et al. (CDC, 2020): Isolated SARS-CoV-2 from human lung fluid, confirmed by electron microscopy.
Zhu et al. (New England Journal of Medicine, 2020): Used cryo-electron microscopy to image the virus.
Kim et al. (Cell, 2020): Sequenced SARS-CoV-2 without relying on Vero cells.
🔹 Key Point:
FOI responses do not invalidate published experimental evidence.
2. SARS-CoV-2 Has Been Purified and Imaged
🔹 Your Claim:
SARS-CoV-2 has never been "isolated" or "purified" because studies use monkey kidney (Vero) cells.
🔹 Scientific Response:
Virus isolation does not require cell cultures—it has been done directly from patients.
Multiple techniques isolate SARS-CoV-2 without using Vero cells:
Ultracentrifugation and Density Gradient Separation
Electron Microscopy (TEM, Cryo-EM)
Nanopore Sequencing
✅ Example: Direct Purification Without Vero Cells
Ogando et al. (2020, Nature Communications) purified SARS-CoV-2 directly from patient samples using ultracentrifugation.
Electron microscopy images show intact viral particles in purified samples.
🔹 Key Point:
SARS-CoV-2 has been physically isolated, purified, and imaged without Vero cells.
3. The Definition of "Isolation" in Virology
🔹 Your Claim:
Virologists redefine “isolation” to mean the opposite of what it normally means.
🔹 Scientific Response:
In virology, "isolation" means obtaining a pure viral sample that can replicate and be studied.
The scientific definition of isolation is not the same as purification.
Isolation = Extracting a virus from a host and showing it can replicate.
Purification = Further separating the virus from all other material.
✅ Example: Koch’s Postulates Applied to SARS-CoV-2
Virus is found in sick patients (lung fluid samples).
Virus is isolated and grown in cultures.
Purified virus infects test subjects and causes the same disease.
Virus is re-isolated from newly infected hosts.
🔹 Key Point:
Virologists do not redefine isolation—they use a precise scientific definition based on experimental methods.
4. Genetic Sequencing Confirms SARS-CoV-2 as a Unique Virus
🔹 Your Claim:
If SARS-CoV-2 has never been properly isolated, then all genetic sequences are fabricated.
🔹 Scientific Response:
The virus has been sequenced directly from patient samples without culturing.
Global genomic databases (GISAID, Nextstrain) confirm identical sequences from independent sources.
Sequencing techniques that do not rely on templates exist:
De novo assembly reconstructs viral genomes without a reference.
✅ Example: Independent Sequencing of SARS-CoV-2
Rambaut et al. (Nature, 2020): Independently sequenced SARS-CoV-2 from patients.
Over 15 million genomes have been sequenced worldwide, all matching the original Wuhan strain with known mutations.
🔹 Key Point:
SARS-CoV-2 is a genetically distinct, independently sequenced virus—not an artifact.
5. FOI Requests Do Not Replace Experimental Science
🔹 Your Claim:
Since institutions could not provide FOI records, the virus does not exist.
🔹 Scientific Response:
FOI officers cannot provide data that is already publicly available in scientific journals.
Thousands of peer-reviewed papers describe SARS-CoV-2 isolation and sequencing.
The FOI approach is a legal loophole, not a scientific method.
✅ Example: Why FOI Requests Often "Fail"
If an FOI request asks for “proof of virus isolation,” institutions may decline because they are not research archives.
The CDC, WHO, and multiple universities have published evidence of SARS-CoV-2 isolation—but these may not be cataloged in FOI-accessible formats.
🔹 Key Point:
The absence of FOI records does not equal the absence of scientific evidence.
Final Verdict: The SARS-CoV-2 Virus Exists, Independently Confirmed
🔴 Your Argument’s Core Issue:
FOI requests are not scientific evidence.
Virology uses precise, reproducible methods for isolation and sequencing.
Multiple independent labs have directly purified and imaged SARS-CoV-2.
✅ Overwhelming Evidence Shows:
SARS-CoV-2 has been isolated, purified, and sequenced worldwide.
Thousands of independent labs have published peer-reviewed studies confirming its existence.
FOI responses do not replace experimental data.
🔹 Bottom Line:
The claim that SARS-CoV-2 has not been isolated is scientifically incorrect.
They might not be legally "obligated" to archive every experiment, but logically they would be expected to have valid evidence on hand and if they were credible, they would. This is especially true for the institutions (i..e CDC, universities) that are directly involved in so-called "isolation" and "sequencing" etc. But the fact is that they all have a grand total of zero valid scientific studies that demonstrate their virus/germ/contagion claims. It doesn't matter which institution we ask or which 'germ' we ask about, there is always nothing.
And the FOIs were inspired by what was already known/seen in the 'germ' literature - it's all pseudoscience. Anyways, I have never claimed that FOI requests are a scientific tool! As usual, ChatGPT lies and cannot cite any valid evidence either.
I created a blog on the subject. Questioning Traditional Beliefs About Virus Isolation
A challenge to the illusion of scientific certainty. https://turfseer.substack.com/p/questioning-traditional-beliefs-about
All these alleged alternative methods rely upon circular reasoning, including the "nanopore" whole genome sequencing.
Thanks Christine, I sent you $30 bucks CA. Please, please hold down the applause...
Thank you so much Rider :) I believe I sent you an email a short while ago. Cheers.