It's too bad things work out like this. Your questions were, and remain, critical. So, don't stop. Neither will I. But sometimes you can put your finger where it hurts and people will do anything to avoid the pain. Also, I think that these two women imagine themselves to be important. And your questions challenged that identity. Just a guess.
Each has their own perspective and none seems to be complete. It is, as one looks at the light spectrum of superheated elements to find the black bands showing what is truly there. The black bands are facts. Many of the experts fall into the trap of extrapolating on fallacies, yet the information they reveal from their observations of other facts is important to the understanding of the entire puzzle. I commend all who work so hard to uncover this operation at their level, be it micro or macro.
It is apparent that the "no virus has been proven" is fact. Christine, Baileys, Cowan, Lanka, Kaufman and others work from this black band of truth. The focus of others uncovers truths in their spectrums.
We all benefit from the open debate but not from infighting and personal attacks.
You are stating the facts! You hold the high ground and I value your work as the best. Your challenge of Martin and Latypova regarding their extrapolation on a non-existant virus is critical to show their limited perspective. Again I am sorry for not making a clear statement.
My interactions with Sasha ended when she would not acknowledge the existance of graphene in the jabs. It was strange, she just told me 'not to worry about that'. Smelled like rat.
I'm confused, is Dr. Young one of those who propose the graphene theory to enslave humanity?
I think there was a video of Latypova and some microscopist who argues there were "unusual structures" in the blood of countermeasured people. Myabe it was this Young?
Sorry to read of this exchange but happy that you have documented this treatment (by Latypova & her cohorts.) which is so similar to the desperate Steve Hirsch dissing/putdowns of your findings last year.
Glad you are still pushing back, Christine, & all props, respect & love for your carrying on. Stay strong.
Not surprising in the least that Sasha Latypova is helping to protect a multi-billion dollar farma club.
Conflicts of interest seem pretty clear to everyone if they only look at her background/loyalties/history.
If the word gets out to the plebes that there are NO viruses & have never been any viruses, then the shill vaxx & bogus treatments ("Paxlovid" anyone?) are rendered useless & seen as crap "medicine".
Can't happen soon enough as peeps are still dying from ruthless vaxx mandates & big lies everywhere.
I left a comment on the video. I'll add it here if that's OK. I'm all for holding these people's feet to the fire, but I also think it's important to understand why people self censor/ stop thinking...
I've not followed Amazing Polly for while now, but I used to find at least half of her videos really informative and insightful. The Trump/ q stuff not so much..... But she's always been anti cell phone which was cool.
I think a genuine challenge faced by no virus camp is coming across like flat earthers when they just jump in the comments and say "there is no virus" without any further explanation. And for people who do full time research it can be exhausting to unpick an official narrative, construct a new narrative and then be told that narrative is also false. Sometimes people just get burnt out and can't cope with peeling off any more layers of the onion.
My gut feeling is she's not a gatekeeper as such, BUT she is probably either burnt out and/ or protecting her income stream (self censoring) because her audience is mostly pro virus/ pro trump/ not scientifically literate. I know she's made a ton of videos on GoF/ lab leak (which is when I stopped watching her) so she's heavily invested in that narrative. Self censorship is by far the most common form of censorship.
If you're a researcher but you can't critique scientific papers then what do you talk about if you reject virology? On the other hand, if you stick with the viral paradigm there'll always be endless material (breadcrumbs) to make a living from.
I'm curious, has anybody actually reached out to her and provided her with decent information or an invitation to discuss the issue outside of comment sections?
She had also spoken out against Trump in recent months. She did appear from no where on YouTube because extremely popular very quickly, which is always a bit surprising, then her channel was deleted.
Her Fairy Tales video where she speaks not verbatim on this "about covid, being fake or the flu and not deadly doesn't means everything coming out is, and to be weary"
That sounds as if she thinks viruses are more than extracellular debris. She's not clear on her stand.
There are people out there you are pushing that terrain people are FE. I've seen those comments on bitchute, It's unfortunate that, that should matter.
I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt. But really she should have reached out to you (and co). I mean that's what investigative journalists are supposed to do right? Investigate! :)
But in a perverse way I think their pantomime reactions to the no virus issue is helping to wake people up.
Anyway thanks for all your tireless work. It is appreciated (and will be more so in the future). Here's a video which sums up your FOIA requests .... enjoy! :)
Hi Christine Massey, I'm sorry Sasha Alexandra Latypova was so phenomenally rude to you.
I don't know who this woman thinks she is, but something about her has rubbed me wrong from the moment I discovered her channel on bitchute.
As I said to her on her plasmagate post a couple of evenings ago the real issue is virusgate, and that a lot of people have blood on their hands. Her connection to the FDA & big pharma may make her blind to the free ride the fraudulent virus theory is to WHO, the dod, and how they've used it and intent to use it to run roughshod over humanity with every subsequent scam they choose to pull, as they are working on Marburg and have since the summer of 2020, but it's very obvious to anyone who's not interested in playing any part in their medical biotech/nano /graphene/ sensor happy, digital technocratic agenda2030 cartel. Thank you for your honest work, kind regards and a happy spring to you. 🌷
I find it really strange how so many people in the health freedom movement put people with pharma/government backgrounds on a pedestal, as if it makes them more credible!
Sasha is one degree or less removed from both McKinnsey and BCG, which are two of the best known, establishment, old school CIA Cut Outs, which means, like most of the names in the "health freedom movement" she is no more than one degree from the CIA, or similar Alphabet Agency. I'm pretty sure that all of the super sleuth ladies--she, Kingston, Ruby, and Watt--who were the who first started talking about the coof juice "Operation Pharmakia," being DOD, didn't figure anything out, they literally were just told by the people they travel the country with, getting money sharing a stage with, speaking half truths and propaganda to rubes with, people like Kash Patel and Dr. Alexander from the actual OWS. Patel now openly admits OWS was DOD. A lot of very mid and low wit people got to look smart regurgitating insider information, by getting to act like they Sherlock Holmesed it. This explains how Sasha is smart enough to do somewhat arcane FOIAs regarding the coof juice, but despite locking herself to the hip of an unemployed paralegal, can't figure out FOIAs for inter govt contracts, on which she nonetheless regularly opines. She 100% won't let anyone assail the legal expertise of the unemployed, paralegal. Just as sure as JJ Couey is that viral ghosts exist despite his believing scientists trick themselves into thinking they see them, when they don't, because ghosts are invisible and very shy, she is sure Katherine Watt is the 2nd coming of Blackstone. It's all the same with all of them--her employer, whoever cast her for her role, needs viruses to exist or their favorite loosh farm and death theater bogie man disappears.
"Sasha is one degree or less removed from both McKinnsey and BCG, which are two of the best known, establishment, old school CIA Cut Outs, which means, like most of the names in the "health freedom movement" she is no more than one degree from the CIA, or similar Alphabet Agency."
Sasha Latypova speaks from the heart. It's perfectly obvious. That doesn't make her right, but it does make her genuine. You appear to be unskilled at judging the character of people from their behavior if you think she is regurgitating a script handed to her. Yet you use phrases like "A lot of very mid and low wit people".
She is promoting the Kirsch's VSRF Litigation clinic scam, which is being run by the biggest,, most notorious DNC/David Brock fixer lawyers. They will salt the Earth in the courts with garbage cases,, destroying every case to follow them in the process, while creating a dossier on everyone who trusts those creeps to seek advice that absolutely will be used against all in it. She clearly doesn't want justice for those hurt by the creeps responsible for the past 3 years. She is promoting a classic Trust Operationor, orchestrated by lawyers who have made their fame running other such ops for 30 years. Your best bet for Remdesivir and Ventilators and other hospital abuse is a good, experienced, local personal injury or wrongful death lawyer. For mRNA, presently, the only real suit is in FL--contact Ashley Moody, FL Atty Gen, send her your story. Sasha doesn't even acknowledge FL's suit, nor has ittle miss insider tried to aid in it, instead she insults Joe Ladapo like a 2 bit Laura Loomer or a 3 bit Jane Ruby. No one who bounces around the Bosoton Consulting Group orbit is genuine, most literally are actors.
Yesterday, on a flight from Europe, I watched Goodfellas. Sasha's language resembles the language of gang members: "...deranged Christine Masey for example, who is very entertaining I must admit, but I had to put her out of her misery purely out of compassion. Sent her off to her own pastures and blocked here. I hope that demonstrated the effects of "camping". She is definitely in a camp and took a stance and can no longer function as a result, poor thing."
Sasha says viruses are a communication mechanism. Tom Cowan has a chapter in his book about "resonance" - how people get diseases together because they resonate. He has no "scientific" proof of a mechanism for this (not knocking him, I agree with him - just stating a fact). These two points of view seem very similar and worthy of discussion together. Apparently you disagree.
I haven't read Tom's book so can't comment on what exactly he has said. Regardless, "viruses" are not said to be resonance, they are said to be particles. Two different things. And these "virus" particles have never been shown to exist (i.e. the alleged SARS-COV-2 genome surrounded by a the alleged spikey protein shell).
Also, contagion of respiratory disease has never been demonstrated scientifically, despite many concerted efforts to do so. Tom is very clear on that.
Cowan says: "Why do measles and chicken pox seem to be infectious? One child puts out the message through exosomes that now is the time to go through the detoxifying experience called chicken pox. Other children in their home or class or town receive the message and begin the same detoxification experience."
If we allow ourselves not to be triggered by words that are not used exactly as we'd like and instead simply look for the real meaning, this is similar - and certainly impossible to distinguish in any kind of experiment right now - from what Sasha is saying right?
So, Tom Cowan thinks virology is a joke. And as I see it, he substantially agrees with what Sasha is saying, with probably some disagreements but ones that could be discussed in a civil fashion right? Yet your response is attack her as if her theory is that Elvis created the virus, assisted by Big Foot? I seriously just don't understand.
Tom has also stated - quite a few times - that many of his positions in that book have evolved (and I would certainly hope so considering the date it was written, and how much more extensive research he - and others - have done since).
To assume that viruses are resonance is just that... an assumption, unproven, and won't be proven since viruses do not exist.
I'll read it if/when I want to, thank you very much. I'm already familiar with Tom's work. You asked me specifically about his book.
Anyone familiar with his recent work knows that he would no longer make that assertion about "exosomes".
You're condescendingly pretending that this is about my personal preferences. It isn't.
She asserted in writing that Marburg virus killed people. Marburg virus isn't some undefined notion of a poison. It's alleged to be a specific thing. Let's not pretend otherwise.
And putting aside the word "virus", Sasha did a whole interview with Sabine based on the completely unproven/false premises that "SARS-COV-2" is real, convid is real, the tests are legit, convid needs treatment and prevention.
Tom and Sasha are on completely opposite sides in terms of the existence of these allegedly proven and detectable particles, and the idea that they "sometimes" make people sick.
Show me where I "attacked" her? I didn't.
Funny you seem perfectly fine with her b.s. about me acting like a drunk for 10 hours, "needing professional help", and "self-harming" on her substack (whatever the hell that's supposed to mean), and that she's willing to "testify" to this - a thinly veiled threat. Also her disdain for placebo-controlled trials! Wow.
Your comment about Elvis and Big Foot is ridiculous and nonsensical.
I simply asked Ms. "Due Diligence" for clarity and for evidence to back up her claims.
Maybe there is something wrong with your comprehension if you can't see this.
"Anyone familiar with his recent work knows that he would no longer make that assertion about "exosomes"."
So the position you have is obviously right and the position Sasha has is obviously wrong. Yet Tom Cowan has changed his mind from saying (broadly) what Sasha says, in his book from 2021. Yet, despite this, there is no discussion to be had - anyone thinking what Tom Cowan thought in 2021 now is a moron. OK.
My position is based on logic, reason, the virology literature and the FOIs, not on Tom's book. My position was never based on Tom's book because I haven't even read it.
Tom changing his mind isn't evidence of anything but Tom changing his mind. Like all the rest of us, he's learned things during the past 3 years. He's researched things more deeply.
Sasha on the other hand made claims about "viruses" - not exosomes or resonance - just days ago, and as you can see she didn't even try to back them up with any science, instead she changed the topic and banned me. Tom never claimed there was a 'covid virus'.
OK I can't be bothered unpicking the many assumptions and definitional confusions in what you say, so you win. You pretend you seek the truth but you do not. You really just want to find ways to argue and play the misunderstood victim.
I have not gotten impression that Christine disagrees with such an idea, but that she questions the current narrative, which is unfortunately a basis of sweeping public policies. If viruses are communication mechanisms, how can they be found in stool? Communication mechanisms could be electromagnetic fields, or something for which we do not have a name yet.
"If viruses are communication mechanisms, how can they be found in stool?"
This does not make sense, of course a communication mechanism can be found in stool - communication mechanisms can obviously be physical material substances.
"Communication mechanisms could be electromagnetic fields, or something for which we do not have a name yet."
Yes indeed. Maybe there is no biochemical communication and it is all through non-material fields. I don't think the matter is settled and think these things are worthy of discussion.
John, are you suggesting that we pretend that we haven't been told for 3+ years about a "genome" surrounded by a spikey protein shell that uses the ACE2 receptor and is detected by tests, blah blah blah? Are you suggesting that we "redefine definitions" for the perps, as suggested by Sasha, and ignore their blatant lies?
What exactly isn't settled John? Please cite a scientific study demonstrating contagion of respiratory disease, if you can? None exist to my knowledge, despite many efforts over the years to demonstrate it.
And the "cases" do not represent a new disease that requires explaining. So what is not settled in your mind?
"Please cite a scientific study demonstrating contagion of respiratory disease, if you can?"
This comment had nothing at all to do with this. You can't just ask this in response to every single comment and question, it's ridiculous. "What exactly isn't settled" is exactly what I said was not settled in the sentence before. ie. "Maybe there is no biochemical communication and it is all through non-material fields." Your question is a non-sequitur.
You earlier referenced "how people get diseases together, and then went on to discuss communication of something, and whether it's via biochemicals or through non-material fields, and saying the matter isn't settled.
So it has sounded to me like you're discussing contagion. If so, where is the evidence of contagion? If not, communication of what, and what is it that you say isn't settled?
Hey I got banned from Celia Farber's substack for questioning some of her nuttery- and I did so with copious documentation.
That's right, read it again, freedom lover Celia Farber.
I guess once you get a substack it's like the kid who has the football and gets everyone together for a pick up game demanding that everyone play by his rules ro he'll take his ball home.
The hypocrisy is mind boggling but frankly no surprise.
For most their "expertise" hangs by a thread and someone who challenges it is not a problem, the problem is the someone who challenges it with intellectual rigor and evidence as you do.
They hate it and the intolerance comes to the surface quite quickly.
I've found that it's reasonable to assume no one is immune from irrational behavior. I therefore trust no one when it comes to complex matters like this and only trust my gut about Mainstream narratives being also untrustworthy, which doesn't make alternative theories necessarily trustworthy or cogent (or true).
Just a heads up on something I utilize, Whenever I've posted challenging links/info on someone's stack that I know will probably really upset them, I copy/past it into an email (& folder it) so I have the links/argument ready to go for later use. Also do this with useful links I want to share over & over. Realize this isn't possible or maybe useful for everyone but it works for me. :-)
Do you have any of the comment links handy? I do remember one thread on her substack where she was getting snippy toward you, and in a confusing way. (The confusion spreading seems to be on the increase, which also makes me suspicious.)
The comments automatically disappear when someone is banned, as far as I can tell. I had to ban someone yesterday (interesting timing) who kept insulting people with incredibly vulgar language (I posted screenshots so that I can't be accused of banning someone to stifle debate, the way Sasha did).
Actually I was wrong. I had to ban someone recently (for a month, because they left hundreds of comments on 1 article, making the same unsupported arguments over and over), and I had a choice as to whether or not I delete all their comments (I chose not to).
A friend made the following comment which sums up C Farber pretty well:
"We can see Celia’s approach — getting mired in petty emotional controversy, being vague about her actual position while taking positions that stir people up, and yet another one pretending to be a hero, venerated for her nonexistent valiant past.
One friend of mine called her the Oprah of Substack because she goes full on into woundology. People basically pay her to bleed for them. "
Christine Massey's position is 100% correct .
It's too bad things work out like this. Your questions were, and remain, critical. So, don't stop. Neither will I. But sometimes you can put your finger where it hurts and people will do anything to avoid the pain. Also, I think that these two women imagine themselves to be important. And your questions challenged that identity. Just a guess.
Each has their own perspective and none seems to be complete. It is, as one looks at the light spectrum of superheated elements to find the black bands showing what is truly there. The black bands are facts. Many of the experts fall into the trap of extrapolating on fallacies, yet the information they reveal from their observations of other facts is important to the understanding of the entire puzzle. I commend all who work so hard to uncover this operation at their level, be it micro or macro.
It is apparent that the "no virus has been proven" is fact. Christine, Baileys, Cowan, Lanka, Kaufman and others work from this black band of truth. The focus of others uncovers truths in their spectrums.
We all benefit from the open debate but not from infighting and personal attacks.
"Pursue With Vigor"
I didn't attack anyone, I simply pointed out the facts.
You are stating the facts! You hold the high ground and I value your work as the best. Your challenge of Martin and Latypova regarding their extrapolation on a non-existant virus is critical to show their limited perspective. Again I am sorry for not making a clear statement.
All respect intended!
"Pursue With Vigor"
No worries, and thank you :)
You were attacked, not vice versa. Sorry if my message was unclear.
Thank you so much
Ok thank you, cheers.
My interactions with Sasha ended when she would not acknowledge the existance of graphene in the jabs. It was strange, she just told me 'not to worry about that'. Smelled like rat.
I would like to see Sasha Latypova discuss the existence of a virus with Dr Robert Young. She is way out of her depth.
I'm confused, is Dr. Young one of those who propose the graphene theory to enslave humanity?
I think there was a video of Latypova and some microscopist who argues there were "unusual structures" in the blood of countermeasured people. Myabe it was this Young?
bingo!
“She says that she will testify about my “deranged behavior last night, if needed”.”
Not. going. to. happen. 😉
Sorry to read of this exchange but happy that you have documented this treatment (by Latypova & her cohorts.) which is so similar to the desperate Steve Hirsch dissing/putdowns of your findings last year.
Glad you are still pushing back, Christine, & all props, respect & love for your carrying on. Stay strong.
Not surprising in the least that Sasha Latypova is helping to protect a multi-billion dollar farma club.
Conflicts of interest seem pretty clear to everyone if they only look at her background/loyalties/history.
If the word gets out to the plebes that there are NO viruses & have never been any viruses, then the shill vaxx & bogus treatments ("Paxlovid" anyone?) are rendered useless & seen as crap "medicine".
Can't happen soon enough as peeps are still dying from ruthless vaxx mandates & big lies everywhere.
Thank you Lucinda :)
Sending <3
Brava, Christine! Virus huggers and Pfizer shills apparently can't hold a decent conversation with anyone who dares to question them!
Just came across this :)
NOVIRUS - GATEKEEPERCLUB
https://www.bitchute.com/video/f7P0WG7IMPhO/
I left a comment on the video. I'll add it here if that's OK. I'm all for holding these people's feet to the fire, but I also think it's important to understand why people self censor/ stop thinking...
I've not followed Amazing Polly for while now, but I used to find at least half of her videos really informative and insightful. The Trump/ q stuff not so much..... But she's always been anti cell phone which was cool.
I think a genuine challenge faced by no virus camp is coming across like flat earthers when they just jump in the comments and say "there is no virus" without any further explanation. And for people who do full time research it can be exhausting to unpick an official narrative, construct a new narrative and then be told that narrative is also false. Sometimes people just get burnt out and can't cope with peeling off any more layers of the onion.
My gut feeling is she's not a gatekeeper as such, BUT she is probably either burnt out and/ or protecting her income stream (self censoring) because her audience is mostly pro virus/ pro trump/ not scientifically literate. I know she's made a ton of videos on GoF/ lab leak (which is when I stopped watching her) so she's heavily invested in that narrative. Self censorship is by far the most common form of censorship.
If you're a researcher but you can't critique scientific papers then what do you talk about if you reject virology? On the other hand, if you stick with the viral paradigm there'll always be endless material (breadcrumbs) to make a living from.
I'm curious, has anybody actually reached out to her and provided her with decent information or an invitation to discuss the issue outside of comment sections?
She had also spoken out against Trump in recent months. She did appear from no where on YouTube because extremely popular very quickly, which is always a bit surprising, then her channel was deleted.
Her Fairy Tales video where she speaks not verbatim on this "about covid, being fake or the flu and not deadly doesn't means everything coming out is, and to be weary"
That sounds as if she thinks viruses are more than extracellular debris. She's not clear on her stand.
There are people out there you are pushing that terrain people are FE. I've seen those comments on bitchute, It's unfortunate that, that should matter.
I've not reached out to her. (I'm exhausted too!)
I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt. But really she should have reached out to you (and co). I mean that's what investigative journalists are supposed to do right? Investigate! :)
But in a perverse way I think their pantomime reactions to the no virus issue is helping to wake people up.
Anyway thanks for all your tireless work. It is appreciated (and will be more so in the future). Here's a video which sums up your FOIA requests .... enjoy! :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz1JWzyvv8A
thanks! i haven't watched those guys in years!!
It is fascinating watching the rotten teeth being exposed and slowly being pulled from the demon, one by one. Christine Massey you're legendary.
thank you so much xoxo
Bravo for sharing all the FOI info! And, you know you are telling the truth when they come gunning for you. Hang in there & keep on going!
Hi Christine Massey, I'm sorry Sasha Alexandra Latypova was so phenomenally rude to you.
I don't know who this woman thinks she is, but something about her has rubbed me wrong from the moment I discovered her channel on bitchute.
As I said to her on her plasmagate post a couple of evenings ago the real issue is virusgate, and that a lot of people have blood on their hands. Her connection to the FDA & big pharma may make her blind to the free ride the fraudulent virus theory is to WHO, the dod, and how they've used it and intent to use it to run roughshod over humanity with every subsequent scam they choose to pull, as they are working on Marburg and have since the summer of 2020, but it's very obvious to anyone who's not interested in playing any part in their medical biotech/nano /graphene/ sensor happy, digital technocratic agenda2030 cartel. Thank you for your honest work, kind regards and a happy spring to you. 🌷
Mia.
Thank you Mia, well said.
I find it really strange how so many people in the health freedom movement put people with pharma/government backgrounds on a pedestal, as if it makes them more credible!
It is unsafe to put anybody on a pedestal.
Sasha is one degree or less removed from both McKinnsey and BCG, which are two of the best known, establishment, old school CIA Cut Outs, which means, like most of the names in the "health freedom movement" she is no more than one degree from the CIA, or similar Alphabet Agency. I'm pretty sure that all of the super sleuth ladies--she, Kingston, Ruby, and Watt--who were the who first started talking about the coof juice "Operation Pharmakia," being DOD, didn't figure anything out, they literally were just told by the people they travel the country with, getting money sharing a stage with, speaking half truths and propaganda to rubes with, people like Kash Patel and Dr. Alexander from the actual OWS. Patel now openly admits OWS was DOD. A lot of very mid and low wit people got to look smart regurgitating insider information, by getting to act like they Sherlock Holmesed it. This explains how Sasha is smart enough to do somewhat arcane FOIAs regarding the coof juice, but despite locking herself to the hip of an unemployed paralegal, can't figure out FOIAs for inter govt contracts, on which she nonetheless regularly opines. She 100% won't let anyone assail the legal expertise of the unemployed, paralegal. Just as sure as JJ Couey is that viral ghosts exist despite his believing scientists trick themselves into thinking they see them, when they don't, because ghosts are invisible and very shy, she is sure Katherine Watt is the 2nd coming of Blackstone. It's all the same with all of them--her employer, whoever cast her for her role, needs viruses to exist or their favorite loosh farm and death theater bogie man disappears.
"Sasha is one degree or less removed from both McKinnsey and BCG, which are two of the best known, establishment, old school CIA Cut Outs, which means, like most of the names in the "health freedom movement" she is no more than one degree from the CIA, or similar Alphabet Agency."
Sasha Latypova speaks from the heart. It's perfectly obvious. That doesn't make her right, but it does make her genuine. You appear to be unskilled at judging the character of people from their behavior if you think she is regurgitating a script handed to her. Yet you use phrases like "A lot of very mid and low wit people".
She is promoting the Kirsch's VSRF Litigation clinic scam, which is being run by the biggest,, most notorious DNC/David Brock fixer lawyers. They will salt the Earth in the courts with garbage cases,, destroying every case to follow them in the process, while creating a dossier on everyone who trusts those creeps to seek advice that absolutely will be used against all in it. She clearly doesn't want justice for those hurt by the creeps responsible for the past 3 years. She is promoting a classic Trust Operationor, orchestrated by lawyers who have made their fame running other such ops for 30 years. Your best bet for Remdesivir and Ventilators and other hospital abuse is a good, experienced, local personal injury or wrongful death lawyer. For mRNA, presently, the only real suit is in FL--contact Ashley Moody, FL Atty Gen, send her your story. Sasha doesn't even acknowledge FL's suit, nor has ittle miss insider tried to aid in it, instead she insults Joe Ladapo like a 2 bit Laura Loomer or a 3 bit Jane Ruby. No one who bounces around the Bosoton Consulting Group orbit is genuine, most literally are actors.
If she's speaking from the heart, she has a very confused, contradictory heart.
What kind of heart spews the lies that the did about me? What kind of heart bans someone for asking Ms. "Due Diligence" some simple questions lol?
Thank you, you have a real way with words :)
Yesterday, on a flight from Europe, I watched Goodfellas. Sasha's language resembles the language of gang members: "...deranged Christine Masey for example, who is very entertaining I must admit, but I had to put her out of her misery purely out of compassion. Sent her off to her own pastures and blocked here. I hope that demonstrated the effects of "camping". She is definitely in a camp and took a stance and can no longer function as a result, poor thing."
I agree!
Sasha says viruses are a communication mechanism. Tom Cowan has a chapter in his book about "resonance" - how people get diseases together because they resonate. He has no "scientific" proof of a mechanism for this (not knocking him, I agree with him - just stating a fact). These two points of view seem very similar and worthy of discussion together. Apparently you disagree.
I haven't read Tom's book so can't comment on what exactly he has said. Regardless, "viruses" are not said to be resonance, they are said to be particles. Two different things. And these "virus" particles have never been shown to exist (i.e. the alleged SARS-COV-2 genome surrounded by a the alleged spikey protein shell).
Also, contagion of respiratory disease has never been demonstrated scientifically, despite many concerted efforts to do so. Tom is very clear on that.
"I haven't read Tom's book so can't comment on what exactly he has said"
Maybe you should read it then. You can read quotes here, for example:
https://davidicke.com/2022/01/23/book-review-the-contagion-myth-by-dr-tom-cowan-and-sally-fallon-morell/
Cowan says: "Why do measles and chicken pox seem to be infectious? One child puts out the message through exosomes that now is the time to go through the detoxifying experience called chicken pox. Other children in their home or class or town receive the message and begin the same detoxification experience."
If we allow ourselves not to be triggered by words that are not used exactly as we'd like and instead simply look for the real meaning, this is similar - and certainly impossible to distinguish in any kind of experiment right now - from what Sasha is saying right?
So, Tom Cowan thinks virology is a joke. And as I see it, he substantially agrees with what Sasha is saying, with probably some disagreements but ones that could be discussed in a civil fashion right? Yet your response is attack her as if her theory is that Elvis created the virus, assisted by Big Foot? I seriously just don't understand.
Tom has also stated - quite a few times - that many of his positions in that book have evolved (and I would certainly hope so considering the date it was written, and how much more extensive research he - and others - have done since).
To assume that viruses are resonance is just that... an assumption, unproven, and won't be proven since viruses do not exist.
I'll read it if/when I want to, thank you very much. I'm already familiar with Tom's work. You asked me specifically about his book.
Anyone familiar with his recent work knows that he would no longer make that assertion about "exosomes".
You're condescendingly pretending that this is about my personal preferences. It isn't.
She asserted in writing that Marburg virus killed people. Marburg virus isn't some undefined notion of a poison. It's alleged to be a specific thing. Let's not pretend otherwise.
And putting aside the word "virus", Sasha did a whole interview with Sabine based on the completely unproven/false premises that "SARS-COV-2" is real, convid is real, the tests are legit, convid needs treatment and prevention.
Tom and Sasha are on completely opposite sides in terms of the existence of these allegedly proven and detectable particles, and the idea that they "sometimes" make people sick.
Show me where I "attacked" her? I didn't.
Funny you seem perfectly fine with her b.s. about me acting like a drunk for 10 hours, "needing professional help", and "self-harming" on her substack (whatever the hell that's supposed to mean), and that she's willing to "testify" to this - a thinly veiled threat. Also her disdain for placebo-controlled trials! Wow.
Your comment about Elvis and Big Foot is ridiculous and nonsensical.
I simply asked Ms. "Due Diligence" for clarity and for evidence to back up her claims.
Maybe there is something wrong with your comprehension if you can't see this.
"Anyone familiar with his recent work knows that he would no longer make that assertion about "exosomes"."
So the position you have is obviously right and the position Sasha has is obviously wrong. Yet Tom Cowan has changed his mind from saying (broadly) what Sasha says, in his book from 2021. Yet, despite this, there is no discussion to be had - anyone thinking what Tom Cowan thought in 2021 now is a moron. OK.
My position is based on logic, reason, the virology literature and the FOIs, not on Tom's book. My position was never based on Tom's book because I haven't even read it.
Tom changing his mind isn't evidence of anything but Tom changing his mind. Like all the rest of us, he's learned things during the past 3 years. He's researched things more deeply.
Sasha on the other hand made claims about "viruses" - not exosomes or resonance - just days ago, and as you can see she didn't even try to back them up with any science, instead she changed the topic and banned me. Tom never claimed there was a 'covid virus'.
OK I can't be bothered unpicking the many assumptions and definitional confusions in what you say, so you win. You pretend you seek the truth but you do not. You really just want to find ways to argue and play the misunderstood victim.
I have not gotten impression that Christine disagrees with such an idea, but that she questions the current narrative, which is unfortunately a basis of sweeping public policies. If viruses are communication mechanisms, how can they be found in stool? Communication mechanisms could be electromagnetic fields, or something for which we do not have a name yet.
"If viruses are communication mechanisms, how can they be found in stool?"
This does not make sense, of course a communication mechanism can be found in stool - communication mechanisms can obviously be physical material substances.
"Communication mechanisms could be electromagnetic fields, or something for which we do not have a name yet."
Yes indeed. Maybe there is no biochemical communication and it is all through non-material fields. I don't think the matter is settled and think these things are worthy of discussion.
John, are you suggesting that we pretend that we haven't been told for 3+ years about a "genome" surrounded by a spikey protein shell that uses the ACE2 receptor and is detected by tests, blah blah blah? Are you suggesting that we "redefine definitions" for the perps, as suggested by Sasha, and ignore their blatant lies?
What exactly isn't settled John? Please cite a scientific study demonstrating contagion of respiratory disease, if you can? None exist to my knowledge, despite many efforts over the years to demonstrate it.
And the "cases" do not represent a new disease that requires explaining. So what is not settled in your mind?
"Please cite a scientific study demonstrating contagion of respiratory disease, if you can?"
This comment had nothing at all to do with this. You can't just ask this in response to every single comment and question, it's ridiculous. "What exactly isn't settled" is exactly what I said was not settled in the sentence before. ie. "Maybe there is no biochemical communication and it is all through non-material fields." Your question is a non-sequitur.
You earlier referenced "how people get diseases together, and then went on to discuss communication of something, and whether it's via biochemicals or through non-material fields, and saying the matter isn't settled.
So it has sounded to me like you're discussing contagion. If so, where is the evidence of contagion? If not, communication of what, and what is it that you say isn't settled?
Please see my response to John.
Hey I got banned from Celia Farber's substack for questioning some of her nuttery- and I did so with copious documentation.
That's right, read it again, freedom lover Celia Farber.
I guess once you get a substack it's like the kid who has the football and gets everyone together for a pick up game demanding that everyone play by his rules ro he'll take his ball home.
The hypocrisy is mind boggling but frankly no surprise.
For most their "expertise" hangs by a thread and someone who challenges it is not a problem, the problem is the someone who challenges it with intellectual rigor and evidence as you do.
They hate it and the intolerance comes to the surface quite quickly.
I've found that it's reasonable to assume no one is immune from irrational behavior. I therefore trust no one when it comes to complex matters like this and only trust my gut about Mainstream narratives being also untrustworthy, which doesn't make alternative theories necessarily trustworthy or cogent (or true).
Just a heads up on something I utilize, Whenever I've posted challenging links/info on someone's stack that I know will probably really upset them, I copy/past it into an email (& folder it) so I have the links/argument ready to go for later use. Also do this with useful links I want to share over & over. Realize this isn't possible or maybe useful for everyone but it works for me. :-)
Woah!
That is a bad sign.
Do you have any of the comment links handy? I do remember one thread on her substack where she was getting snippy toward you, and in a confusing way. (The confusion spreading seems to be on the increase, which also makes me suspicious.)
I don't, she wiped out all of the comments and banned a few others along the way.
The comments automatically disappear when someone is banned, as far as I can tell. I had to ban someone yesterday (interesting timing) who kept insulting people with incredibly vulgar language (I posted screenshots so that I can't be accused of banning someone to stifle debate, the way Sasha did).
Actually I was wrong. I had to ban someone recently (for a month, because they left hundreds of comments on 1 article, making the same unsupported arguments over and over), and I had a choice as to whether or not I delete all their comments (I chose not to).
Oh wow. Wow wow wow, sorry to hear that Allen!!
xo
A friend made the following comment which sums up C Farber pretty well:
"We can see Celia’s approach — getting mired in petty emotional controversy, being vague about her actual position while taking positions that stir people up, and yet another one pretending to be a hero, venerated for her nonexistent valiant past.
One friend of mine called her the Oprah of Substack because she goes full on into woundology. People basically pay her to bleed for them. "