I just have one question: in the very end of the video you say: "I hope your conference in Denmark is successful". What conference are you talking about? Was this recording prepared especially for this conference? Where can I find more information about it, at least the full name of the conference? I need it for my video description, I always try to provide as accurate and full information about each of the videos as I can.
Agreed that C19 virus does not likely exist. Agreed that other contagions promoted by big pharma and gov may not exist.
But I have not heard an adequate explanation for kids bringing home sickness from school and spreading it in the family.
I have also seen kennel cough in dogs spread like wild fire in healthy kennels when a new kennel cough dog was introduced.
I have also cultured bacteria, tested antibiotics against them, and used the antibiotics that inhibited growth on culture plates to cure the ill animal from which the bacteria was taken.
Hard to explain these as nutritional, environmental, coincidental, psychosomatic, or stress related.
Hello from the UK. Many thanks for you post. I see you have a troll blundering about swinging his club about and hitting himself on the head. I don't think it hurts him though!
I cannot remember all I say to people but I manged to turn my thinking round 180 degrees by June 2020 after 2 months solid research from thinking vaccines were of some use (but not for the 'flu as people fell ill anyway) to realising that all vaccines were pointless at best and otherwise harmful or deadly.
Or more simply, vaccines contain, if anything, poison so since when has poisoning oneself been good for one's health?
As it is Friday this might lighten the mood. I am not aware I have sent before to you.
Alternatively my latest article which is mirrored on my substack page, harking back to heady days of 2020 when the world was even more insane than at present.
Thank you. I'm very curious about this topic now for some reason. Some of my strong interests are in natural healing so I am always trying to learn as much as possible. As we get older, it seems that we become more skeptical about what ever we were taught; but we can try to discern. I have many methods to heal most injuries and ailments and have learned a lot of preventive measures. I am not a scientist, so a lot of this stuff is hard to digest or comprehend. When I took microbiology in college (one class) I was surprised at how interesting it was and actually got an A. This class did not teach anything about viruses. My major eventually evolved into Human Development. I do support your dedication and extremely hard work that you are doing. Much appreciation.
"Lol, many factors means many factors. And obviously there are many factors that lead a body to need to detox. I'm not here to list them all, that's another discussion and it's been done over and over."
1) Specify at least ONE of the aforementioned factors together with a scientific description of the mechanism how such a factor causes disease, including, without limitation, an isolated, purified sample of any substance involved in the relevant process.
2) In claiming "detox", provide a scientific description of the said detox process, substantiated with incontrovertible scientific evidence and repeatable experiments. Explain why the human body would "detoxify" (sic) itself in a way endangering life if the alleged detoxification process is unstopped, untreated.
Jun 30, 2023·edited Jun 30, 2023Liked by Christine Massey FOIs
On Steve Kirsch, a loud mouth fool in it for the appeal to popularity. Being banned from his site is is a badge of honour.
Early in the convid saga he was going on a about masks. He believed they worked. I bombarded him with questions and evidence pointing to the fact the N95 masks were as useless as any other. After a lot of rubbish he changed his whole story to pressurized masks like those that are used in explosive environments or undergrounds in mines by rescue teams or those used by firemen in smoke filled environments.
On a virus debate I hit him with this response:
With total respect. You answered your own question.
"I have no conflicts of interest and I cannot be intimidated. They cannot take away my license to practice medicine because I’m not a doctor. I’m worse. I’m an engineer with two degrees from MIT. And I have a lot of smart friends."
"Yes, I’m not a doctor."
Me : So, stick to your knitting. You claim there is a virus. You are also not qualified, are you? Then follow your training as an engineer, The burden of proof is yours.
"My only alternative hypothesis/claim is that many factors contribute to ill health, which is self-evident."
In the interest of rigorous science, I, Stoyan Yakotich, demand as follows:
1) What and how constitutes "self-evident"? What constitutes the scientific basis of "self-evidence"
2) Furnish an isolated, purified sample of at least one of the many factors that contribute to ill health, but ideally all such factors, including a scientific description of how such multiple factors interact and thus cause ill health.
The is-there-a-virus-and-if-so-what-is-it debate is interesting from the biological and medical viewpoint, but it is absolutely irrelevant in regard to the totalitarian measures imposed during the convid fakedemic and any similar attempts in the future.
1) The virus is only a vehicle used to foist extreme collectivism on the population based on the premise that people must sacrifice their personal well-being for the (alleged) well-being of others. Any number of other vehicles, any individual action liable to have an impact, whether actual or alleged, on others and society as a whole can be used for the same purpose.
2) No-virusers only prove that the methodology used by virology is inconclusive, that it doesn't constitute proof of the alleged function and behavior of viruses. No-virusers don't disprove virology, they only demonstrate that virology has somewhat feet of clay. The FOI requests are particularly idiotic. The government is not only not the progenitor or the truth, but even if it were, proving the non-existence of something by claiming that the government doesn't have a sample isolated, purified sample thereof according to a specific methodology is hallucinatory phantasmagoria. Resorting to such patent stupidity does way more harm than good, as it puts off people genuinely interested, including specialists, who won't touch the issue with a 10-foot pole, seeing the deranged proponents of this craze.
3) Virology and the medical establishment will not budge. Certainly not in light of such scant evidence, which essentially constitutes no evidence. Ditto the general public, in as much as they give a shit in the first place. The only way of accomplishing change would be proposing a viable alternative theory, proving it beyond any doubt using rigorous scientific methodology (read: the exact opposite of hallucinations about annual detox, resonance, synchronization, and other similar imbecilisms). Then, the public and the scientific establishment would embrace it. Even then, they would incorporate the new theory into their workings and most likely take advantage of it in one way or another.
4) Germ vs. terrain. These two theories are not exclusive, they're complementary. Even conventional medicine acknowledges that disease is caused by defective terrain. Nothing new under the Sun. The issue is something else. The issue is what should be the role of medicine - treating disease when it develops, when symptoms appear, or taking care of terrain and making sure that disease doesn't develop in the first place? The latter obviously makes more sense, but be careful what you wish for! Putting medicine in charge of terrain would mean that medicine would oversee just about all aspects of human activity, including physical, including mental. For everything is liable to disrupt terrain and be conducive to disease. Do you really want that? Do you want all aspects of people's lives to be under institutional oversight? Isn't treating symptoms the better option after all? For it gives you freedom to live your life as you see fit (and possibly screw up your terrain in doing so)?
5) Tax your wits to a greater extent and don't fall for inconsequential red herrings of the there-is-no-virus kind. It's totally inconsequential where there are viruses or not and what they are. What is important is insisting on bodily autonomy. All of the countermeasures, the totalitarian action taken during the convid period can be contested and opposed whether there are viruses or not.
The there-is-no-virus issue is a red herring, whether perpetuated intentionally or on a useful idiot basis, that only detracts attention from issues of real importance.
Allen really great post i really love #3 and #4------ could anybody out there pleases pleases!!!!!!!!!! show me in any way shappe or form any offical or non offical organnization with names names names called ( THE HEALTH FREEDOM MOVMENT ) I CANNOT FIND IT IF IT EXIST AND IF IT DOES PLEASES EXCUSE MY NO KNOWING ------- JUST FOR THE RECORD I AM IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM A PART OF ANY CLOWN GROUP CALLED THE HEALTH FREEDOM MOVEMENT OR ANY HUMAN OR RELIGION OR SPIRITUAL OR POLITICAL GROUP OR SIMILAR FRAGILE EGG SHELLED MIND HUMAN CATTLIE CHILDISH ORGANIZATIONS ----------- I AM A FREETHINKING INIDIVIDUAL WHO ACTUALLY DOES UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS TO BE A FREETHIKING INIVIDUALAL AND OF CORSE THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A VIRUS I FIGUERED THAT OUT WHEN I WAS 8 YEARS OLD YES YOU HEARD THAT CORRECTLY REMEBER PENACILLIN PLEASE SEND ME ANY INFOMATION ON THIS SO CALLLED ORGANIZATION # 1 WHO CREATED IT ??????? # 2 WHERE DO THEY MEET ??? # 3 WHO ARE THIER OFFICAL LEADERS ???? FREE THINKING IS BAESED ON QUESTIONS GET IT!!! DO THEY ISSUE PRESS STATEMENTS??????? ECT. ECT . ETC. MY EMAIL IS mznhiz@yahoo.com facts only no opioions or any other childish babble
Hello there Christine, greetings from Poland!
I have a question about your video "OFFICIAL EVIDENCE THAT VIROLOGY IS PSEUDOSCIENCE" (https://www.bitchute.com/video/gvu4NbieSuVb/)
I've translated this video and I will upload it onto my channel, which is quite popular with the Polish audience (https://www.bitchute.com/channel/FlDI64I8W9kD/).
I just have one question: in the very end of the video you say: "I hope your conference in Denmark is successful". What conference are you talking about? Was this recording prepared especially for this conference? Where can I find more information about it, at least the full name of the conference? I need it for my video description, I always try to provide as accurate and full information about each of the videos as I can.
Looking forward to your reply,
Georgina Orwell PL
Agreed that C19 virus does not likely exist. Agreed that other contagions promoted by big pharma and gov may not exist.
But I have not heard an adequate explanation for kids bringing home sickness from school and spreading it in the family.
I have also seen kennel cough in dogs spread like wild fire in healthy kennels when a new kennel cough dog was introduced.
I have also cultured bacteria, tested antibiotics against them, and used the antibiotics that inhibited growth on culture plates to cure the ill animal from which the bacteria was taken.
Hard to explain these as nutritional, environmental, coincidental, psychosomatic, or stress related.
If you can explain, please post.
Yeah for the lawsuits. I’m sorry about your husband
Thank you!! Yeah!
Dear Christine.
Hello from the UK. Many thanks for you post. I see you have a troll blundering about swinging his club about and hitting himself on the head. I don't think it hurts him though!
I cannot remember all I say to people but I manged to turn my thinking round 180 degrees by June 2020 after 2 months solid research from thinking vaccines were of some use (but not for the 'flu as people fell ill anyway) to realising that all vaccines were pointless at best and otherwise harmful or deadly.
Or more simply, vaccines contain, if anything, poison so since when has poisoning oneself been good for one's health?
As it is Friday this might lighten the mood. I am not aware I have sent before to you.
https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/2022/05/29/i-knew-an-old-doctor-who-swallowed-a-lie/
Alternatively my latest article which is mirrored on my substack page, harking back to heady days of 2020 when the world was even more insane than at present.
https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/clap-for-our-carers-and-other-clap
Thanks again and keep up the good work!
Thank you. I'm very curious about this topic now for some reason. Some of my strong interests are in natural healing so I am always trying to learn as much as possible. As we get older, it seems that we become more skeptical about what ever we were taught; but we can try to discern. I have many methods to heal most injuries and ailments and have learned a lot of preventive measures. I am not a scientist, so a lot of this stuff is hard to digest or comprehend. When I took microbiology in college (one class) I was surprised at how interesting it was and actually got an A. This class did not teach anything about viruses. My major eventually evolved into Human Development. I do support your dedication and extremely hard work that you are doing. Much appreciation.
Pseudoscientist Christine Massey claims:
"Lol, many factors means many factors. And obviously there are many factors that lead a body to need to detox. I'm not here to list them all, that's another discussion and it's been done over and over."
1) Specify at least ONE of the aforementioned factors together with a scientific description of the mechanism how such a factor causes disease, including, without limitation, an isolated, purified sample of any substance involved in the relevant process.
2) In claiming "detox", provide a scientific description of the said detox process, substantiated with incontrovertible scientific evidence and repeatable experiments. Explain why the human body would "detoxify" (sic) itself in a way endangering life if the alleged detoxification process is unstopped, untreated.
On Steve Kirsch, a loud mouth fool in it for the appeal to popularity. Being banned from his site is is a badge of honour.
Early in the convid saga he was going on a about masks. He believed they worked. I bombarded him with questions and evidence pointing to the fact the N95 masks were as useless as any other. After a lot of rubbish he changed his whole story to pressurized masks like those that are used in explosive environments or undergrounds in mines by rescue teams or those used by firemen in smoke filled environments.
On a virus debate I hit him with this response:
With total respect. You answered your own question.
"I have no conflicts of interest and I cannot be intimidated. They cannot take away my license to practice medicine because I’m not a doctor. I’m worse. I’m an engineer with two degrees from MIT. And I have a lot of smart friends."
"Yes, I’m not a doctor."
Me : So, stick to your knitting. You claim there is a virus. You are also not qualified, are you? Then follow your training as an engineer, The burden of proof is yours.
I too was blocked.
Christine Massey claims
"My only alternative hypothesis/claim is that many factors contribute to ill health, which is self-evident."
In the interest of rigorous science, I, Stoyan Yakotich, demand as follows:
1) What and how constitutes "self-evident"? What constitutes the scientific basis of "self-evidence"
2) Furnish an isolated, purified sample of at least one of the many factors that contribute to ill health, but ideally all such factors, including a scientific description of how such multiple factors interact and thus cause ill health.
An excellent compilation of resources. Once again, thanks, Christine, many millions of times over!! 🙏🏼 💖
So no fois? Anything else I can do?
Ooooh, Baby, I love your way...
The Way of Flushing the POO... ;)
Hello from the Outlander... hope to be back in black soon (viral doom from somebody!).
Cheers and No Fears! xo xo
Mrs. Massey, can you do or is there a way to do a FOIs on hospitals?
Does anyone remember that movie called: Andromeda Strain?
Kindly read and consider the following carefully.
The is-there-a-virus-and-if-so-what-is-it debate is interesting from the biological and medical viewpoint, but it is absolutely irrelevant in regard to the totalitarian measures imposed during the convid fakedemic and any similar attempts in the future.
1) The virus is only a vehicle used to foist extreme collectivism on the population based on the premise that people must sacrifice their personal well-being for the (alleged) well-being of others. Any number of other vehicles, any individual action liable to have an impact, whether actual or alleged, on others and society as a whole can be used for the same purpose.
2) No-virusers only prove that the methodology used by virology is inconclusive, that it doesn't constitute proof of the alleged function and behavior of viruses. No-virusers don't disprove virology, they only demonstrate that virology has somewhat feet of clay. The FOI requests are particularly idiotic. The government is not only not the progenitor or the truth, but even if it were, proving the non-existence of something by claiming that the government doesn't have a sample isolated, purified sample thereof according to a specific methodology is hallucinatory phantasmagoria. Resorting to such patent stupidity does way more harm than good, as it puts off people genuinely interested, including specialists, who won't touch the issue with a 10-foot pole, seeing the deranged proponents of this craze.
3) Virology and the medical establishment will not budge. Certainly not in light of such scant evidence, which essentially constitutes no evidence. Ditto the general public, in as much as they give a shit in the first place. The only way of accomplishing change would be proposing a viable alternative theory, proving it beyond any doubt using rigorous scientific methodology (read: the exact opposite of hallucinations about annual detox, resonance, synchronization, and other similar imbecilisms). Then, the public and the scientific establishment would embrace it. Even then, they would incorporate the new theory into their workings and most likely take advantage of it in one way or another.
4) Germ vs. terrain. These two theories are not exclusive, they're complementary. Even conventional medicine acknowledges that disease is caused by defective terrain. Nothing new under the Sun. The issue is something else. The issue is what should be the role of medicine - treating disease when it develops, when symptoms appear, or taking care of terrain and making sure that disease doesn't develop in the first place? The latter obviously makes more sense, but be careful what you wish for! Putting medicine in charge of terrain would mean that medicine would oversee just about all aspects of human activity, including physical, including mental. For everything is liable to disrupt terrain and be conducive to disease. Do you really want that? Do you want all aspects of people's lives to be under institutional oversight? Isn't treating symptoms the better option after all? For it gives you freedom to live your life as you see fit (and possibly screw up your terrain in doing so)?
5) Tax your wits to a greater extent and don't fall for inconsequential red herrings of the there-is-no-virus kind. It's totally inconsequential where there are viruses or not and what they are. What is important is insisting on bodily autonomy. All of the countermeasures, the totalitarian action taken during the convid period can be contested and opposed whether there are viruses or not.
The there-is-no-virus issue is a red herring, whether perpetuated intentionally or on a useful idiot basis, that only detracts attention from issues of real importance.
Allen really great post i really love #3 and #4------ could anybody out there pleases pleases!!!!!!!!!! show me in any way shappe or form any offical or non offical organnization with names names names called ( THE HEALTH FREEDOM MOVMENT ) I CANNOT FIND IT IF IT EXIST AND IF IT DOES PLEASES EXCUSE MY NO KNOWING ------- JUST FOR THE RECORD I AM IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM A PART OF ANY CLOWN GROUP CALLED THE HEALTH FREEDOM MOVEMENT OR ANY HUMAN OR RELIGION OR SPIRITUAL OR POLITICAL GROUP OR SIMILAR FRAGILE EGG SHELLED MIND HUMAN CATTLIE CHILDISH ORGANIZATIONS ----------- I AM A FREETHINKING INIDIVIDUAL WHO ACTUALLY DOES UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS TO BE A FREETHIKING INIVIDUALAL AND OF CORSE THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A VIRUS I FIGUERED THAT OUT WHEN I WAS 8 YEARS OLD YES YOU HEARD THAT CORRECTLY REMEBER PENACILLIN PLEASE SEND ME ANY INFOMATION ON THIS SO CALLLED ORGANIZATION # 1 WHO CREATED IT ??????? # 2 WHERE DO THEY MEET ??? # 3 WHO ARE THIER OFFICAL LEADERS ???? FREE THINKING IS BAESED ON QUESTIONS GET IT!!! DO THEY ISSUE PRESS STATEMENTS??????? ECT. ECT . ETC. MY EMAIL IS mznhiz@yahoo.com facts only no opioions or any other childish babble