A "Dr Rachel Taylor" has responded to me in the comments under Jennifer's post (https://smithvirologist.substack.com/p/virology-101/comment/53165699?r=1kxpnn), but since Jennifer has blocked me I can't respond to her. I'd appreciate it very much if someone would post the following for me in response (thank you in advance):
I cannot respond to you directly, because Jennifer has blocked me, so I've asked someone to post this response to you.
By definition, pseudoscience is anything passed off as "science" that does not adhere to the scientific method. Surely you're already familiar with the scientific method since you describe yourself as a scientist, but in case not here is a detailed article on the topic:
The scientific method is not a process of "interpreting effects in many different ways".
I don't know where you get the idea that I've "attacked" Jennifer. It concerns me that you frame critical comments as an "attack" and insinuate that there is something wrong with pointing out logical fallacies and false claims.
"Covid" stands for "coronavirus disease", the purported effect (that requires zero symptoms and is diagnosed with fraudulent useless tests) of the alleged cause ("coronavirus"). Even if "viruses" were real, "covid" could not be a "virus". You're conflating an alleged effect with an alleged cause.
"SARS-COV-2" and other alleged "viruses" have never been shown to exist as claimed, meaning that the particles that are pointed at in EM images have never been shown to have the purported "genomes" or proteins (let alone cause any illness).
You have made a claim about "viruses" that is backed by zero valid scientific evidence. If I'm wrong, please cite the evidence posthaste.
No, it is not better to make up new stories about particles that were never shown to exist let alone "do many different things".
"There are effects that have causes that may be interpreted in many different ways. "
So you don't need an independent variable (X) to prove that X causes Y (effect) ? So you just get to take an effect and make up stories about it...That's the beauty of "science".
Thanks for the substack of today and interesting interaction with Dr. Jennifer Smith. She is a trained virologist and has to believe what she has been taught, i.e., isolates or lysates (gunk) are isolated (purified) viruses. However, scientifically, these are two very different things. No one, including her, has isolated the virus. They have a false belief.
Another way to ask the question is, scientifically speaking, the end product of isolation step(s) is a pure substance with its complete characterization (chemical and structural). If one cannot provide that, the person is either ignorant of science or lying.
There is no need to argue about scientific methods or control experiments. These are not relevant to the isolation of substances, including viruses. Such an example or argument allows them to dodge the question, which has been happening for many decades, and you are well aware.
The simple question to ask is – has the virus been isolated? If the response is yes. Then, where is it, and who has the specimen of the purified virus? No ifs, buts, or explanations. End of the story.
Thanks Saeed. I agree that without a purified, sequenced, characterized particle it's game over. But I go into other details b/c so many people are in denial about this. They get bamboozled by all the nonsense the virologists do. So I address it from various angles. But of course without purified particles they have nothing!
Hard to believe, but the question of whether or not there actually was a Covid virus--or a classic pandemic for that matter-- remains unsettled among leading expert commentators.
The "no virus" side of the argument is clearly presented in the article and video by Dr. Sam Bailey at https://drsambailey.com/.
Michael Yeadon agrees: "There are no respiratory viruses, we don’t know what causes the symptom’s but can’t be a virus. numerous, serious clinical research studies were set up to detect and measure symptomatic transmission (causing a well person to fall ill with similar symptoms to those of the donor person). Try as they might, that didn’t happen. Contagion in this specific scenario (acute respiratory diseases) does not happen."
Sasha Latypova agrees, maintaining that what was/is created in the lab by gain-of-function are chemical poisons. When I asked her whether the voluminous, costly and clandestine research performed by the likes of DOD, UNC & Ralph Baric in pursuit of (if not in attaining) a formidable infectious bio-weapon has been all for show? She responded: "Pretty much. They mutated a lot of bullshit and distributed some toxic chemicals. They definitely waste billions to pay themselves lavishly and assemble huge academic departments dedicated to nothing but making poison. They do not make viruses, anything live, or any GOF. Yes most of them believe their own BS. Yes, they are comically over-confident. They have never validated a single thing they claim. All this charade is doing - 1)chemical process to glue huge-size molecules together that contain nucleic acids +2)various methods of manufacture, storage, delivery and formulation of this crap. That's it. If you look into "biologics" - they never use microscope (that's strictly forbidden in molecular biology), most of the time rely on 3rd party unvalidated "kits", completely automated (likewise unvalidated) processes, like PCR. And the claims of "proteins", "viruses" and the like are based largely on the weight of the molecules they produce, and occasionally - on length of the nucleic acid chains. So they claim that a hunk of stone that weighs approximately what Michelangelo's David weighs, is marble and is the same size = the same thing as the sculpture of Michelangelo, David. / Bioweapons research makes chemicals and things like plasmids to transfect people with these chemicals. There is nothing more mysterious to it. Nothing "alive" is made. Weaponized Anthrax? It’s a chemical. They mutated a lot of bullshit and distributed some toxic chemicals. "
JJCouey hypothesizes: "Infectious clones were dropped “
Kevin McKernan diasagrees: "Many of the "No Pandemic crowd" are critical of any protest against GOF as they believe it plays into the pandemic prep narrative. It’s as if in their mind, transmissible diseases can never be engineered. I dont think they understand how easy this stuff is to tinker with. Most of the people with these beliefs don't actually have any lab experience to know how quickly a modified C19 could be reconstructed today (dozens of strains in weeks). someone spent the effort to hyper-optimize C19 ACE2 binding affinity such that it would spread far and wide.”
Geert VandenBossche premises his entire doomsday argument on there being a C-19 virus that rapidly and dangerously mutates, especially when confronted by mass vaccination with an ineffective “vaccine."
Which brings us to Jennifer's as yet unanswered question: "What do you think made millions of people sick?"
And no one has yet offered a clear and convincing explanation of how whatever it is that seemed to make people sick (if it actually did)— got distributed— or whether indeed, it was contagious.
To the distress of the sociopathic perps of both SARS-CoV-2 and the indisputably ineffective, unsafe, and deadly “vax,” the quest for the truth continues.
Quest for what truth? The "it" question has been addressed many times. There is no "it". There is no common denominator among the fake "cases", not even a tiny sequence of unknown provenance. And there is no new or old unique specific "covid" illness that needs explaining. No symptoms were required in order to be diagnosed.
And, there is zero valid evidence of contagion, for fake-covid or flu or colds (CDC already officially admitted they have none).
The onus is on those making the virus/contagion claims and they have nothing to back them up. "covid-19" was a fictional narrative, nothing more.
Latypova is an interesting character. Up until very recently she came unhinged on anyone bringing up the no-virus issue. Suddenly she acts as though she saw the no-virus truth all along, yet calls anyone who is no-virus but not "credentialed" to her satisfaction an "ankle-biter". Might have something to do with her background serving big pharma, who knows.
"Adolf Eichman's life was boringly ordinary, but he was caught up in an international script of the political state that he had neither the inclination nor the mental resources to comprehend. His response was that of a trained animal, just following, following—never thinking an original thought or doing an original deed. He learned how to get along. So it has been in the hallowed halls of the National Cancer Institute (NCI), National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAIDS), the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), the World Health Organization (WHO), and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) all the way down to the private doctor’s office. Thousands of people are making their living by not exactly lying but not exactly telling the truth—just following, following. The groupthink mentality has had deadly consequences. It defies honor. And because it is a delusional and deadly fantasyland, I call it virusworld. Virusworld is a mythical land where diminutive minds and shrunken souls have been given billions in blood money sucked from the corpses of the dead to create an illusion of a virus that has never been found. However, it is the opening round in the death-knell scenario for an obsolete and disproven theory.
The disease-causing virus paradigm deserves neither solemnity nor respect. It deserves nothing less than outrage and ridicule as the awareness increases that it is based purely on myth and the magic of technological razzmatazz and has nothing to do with the logic of scientific truth."
Wrote (& slightly paraphrased by me) Dr Nancy Turner banks in her 2016 book; The Slow Death of the AIDS Cancer Paradigm.
It is a good quote, Dr Nancy Turner Banks (M.D. not Phd) was quite clued up, along with the above linked book, her book "AIDS, Opium, Diamonds & Empire, the Virus of International Greed" also gets a Foxy rating of; "highly recommended"
I became aware of your FOIA's on fluoridefreepeel.ca (along with David Crowes contagionmyth website) in mid 2020 so a big THANKYOU to you as well Christine for your tireless work.
Probably wasted my time, but had a go on her comment thread as well. I see others dropping in so why not document it...
"So do you believe the entire field of immunology is also fake?"
I think everyone acknowledges that this field of highly paid professionals exists (ergo, not "fake"). However, some have come to challenge what their training has taught them about how the human body functions. Since the "immune system" is a hypothetical construct built on the back of a demonstrably failed hypothesis, it is beginning to look like this field is just churning out technical data that skipped over provenance issues that would be the foundation of their work- and are subsequently just fiddling with lab toys that follow inventive reasoning & forgone conclusions (assumptions) far far down the stream. The only logical conclusion would be that things like independent variables and the scientific method are/were not important to them and that they were given limited framework to operate within. I wonder, do 'immunologists' ever challenge their field? You could say they have a major problem, are compartmentalized, and there are a lot of them. Let us not apply the bandwagon fallacy. A lot of people doing things the same wrong way doesn't make it true, or make them "experts".
"How do you account for virus specific antibodies?"
Nobody needs to account for an "antibody" if there is no body to be "anti" with in the beginning. We are dealing with another hypothetical construct here. Stay on course. Find the independent variable in nature first...then you could test to see if other particles or protein globulins that may or may not appear have anything to do with "it". We don't want to begin with assumptions and reification fallacies. It could be that your field training manual has taught you to work backwards (see above). You should start at the beginning.
"What you are doing is quite dangerous, insinuating that microorganisms do not exist."
It would be, and has been far more dangerous to claim a specific microorganism- that can allegedly do all sorts of super powerful bad stuff- has been found in nature and characterized without following the scientific method to do so. I think you appropriately called it a "tool". Let us see the hammer separated from everything else in the tool box. Nobody can 'prove' that unicorns don't exist. However, if someone was to claim they were killing millions of people, we'd sure want to see if/how they were found in nature. Is that dangerous?
"Have you not ever been sick once in your entire life?"
That's about as relevant as me asking if you've ever had a banana. Are you under the impression that there is only one single cause of every symptom of disease? That's what your question implies and it's extremely troubling for many reasons.
My contribution- sorry but this individual can't think clearly. I mean this in the most clinical and literal sense of the phrase.
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Calling it fake hardly covers it. Have you studied the history of disease?
There are no such things as "virus specific antibodies."
Conflating any of this with the negation of microorganisms is a logical fallacy. Certainly you understand the basics manner of logic and reasoning?
Conflating any of that with the question of an individual being ill is yet another logical fallacy.
I swear to god I can't believe the extremely low levels of understanding of basic logical constructs in supposedly "educated" people as they struggle to string together coherent ideas and concepts in an attempt to defend their positions.
"I can tell you I have colleagues who are working with SARS viruses in animal models."
Can you cite any papers on this?
Again sorry to harp on this but you really do need to figure out how to discuss these matters coherently. Any logician would toss you out of the room if this were your presented evidence and line of reasoning.
BTW the days of the "experts" are over as you must know. People are thankfully avoiding and scorning "experts" left and right.
"The virus was a TOOL used to implement the new biosecurity state" says this 'virologist and public health professional' - in defence of the greatest Propaganda PsyOp the world has ever known ('viruses', 'vaccines' ... and the political plandemic).
Wow! You could frame that. An invisible imaginary tool to trick and torment humanity into totalitarian imprisonment. For our 'health and safety' of course.
Excellent! Please continue to expose these interactions. They are adding to the mountains of evidence and proof that no one can offer any real science to rescue the pseudoscience known as “virology”. She blocked you to avoid looking more and more foolish. Thank you Christine!
The viruses are important for rockefeller medicine, it can not be otherwise...and when the virology, molecular biology (the birth of) , most of the modern medicine science, medical schools, drug bussineses and medicine monopoly have ties with rockefellers ("support OUR science"), everything is made based on the house "golden rules". We let our lives, the understanding of entire life in their hands, like they were the only gods , now we need a real reset of the "science", to work hard to get the truth, the common sense and as a duty, a realy understanding by ouselves of a lot of things we didn't care about too much in time.
When i saw the presentation on the PANDA site, i commented "Disappointed in this belief. Virology is pseudo-science. A belief in the existence of goblins and spooks and fairies. It was supported by artifacts created by EM's. June Almeida lied."
I concur with Pamela. Christine, you are the, "Mostest". (That's a 1950's term of extreme praise from the "Beatnik" era of America). Always bear in mind this maxim, a maxim being a conclusion of logic: "He who affirms must prove." NOT, he who denies. You can throw this in the face of those imbecilic System Shills who bray like jackasses in a pepper patch supporting the fallacy of virology. The onus is on them to prove viruses exist, not on you to prove they do not. Of course they can't, so they obfuscate like the weasels they are. Anything for some crumbs from massa's table. Or maybe they are stupid enough to believe the lies. (Ever notice in the middle of "believe" is the word "lie"? A coincidence or synchronicity?). Keep punching, Christine, you are doing a fantastic job.
On UK column news extra last week the discussion on bird flu the point was made that 100,000 birds (approx) are slaughtered for every "case" shown to be positive by PCR i.e. slaughter on suspicion. This is sheer madness but it is done out of sight. https://www.ukcolumn.org/
I do think the animal "viruses" illustrate the absurdity and the danger of the "virologists" arguments.
Hi Emma, I haven't watched an episode of The UK Column since last June......have they addressed the "no virus found" conundrum yet?
Brian Gerrish is on record as stating that UKC viewers would be put off by this "issue" & Mike Robinson has said quite clearly; "I've got a problem with terrain theory".
Hi Andy, I haven't seen any more discussion on UKC about this but I do not watch every episode. So many people cannot change their minds about long held beliefs: what is it that is said about "anger, denial, acceptance..." Lets hope that the worm of doubt keeps gnawing away at the old school beliefs that so many people cling to. I do think that reading the comments below shows how many people are waking up, some slowly, some suddenly. I will therefore continue to support the UKC and think the new contributors Charles Martel and Ben Rubin are worth watching too.
I also think that saying that the medicating of pets and farm animals is poisoning them and making them ill is a way of moving the argument from "what makes us ill then?" to "don't you see this is a money making scam and a way of poisoning our food supply?"
Thanks Andy for this vital info regarding UK Column. I took an annual subscription with UK Column last April and it is due for renewal this month. In the chat section in the UK Column website, a contributor had revealed that Mike Robinson had refused to invite a Biostatistician from the University of Almeria, Spain onto UK Column to discuss what was in the Covid quackzine as according to Mike he felt that there 'wasn't enough corroborating evidence to support the findings of the Biostatistician team's research. Mike's assertions are very much false as there are plenty of independent scientists all over the world doing the same research into the covid. So, your revelations about UK Column matches my suspicions of them supporting the false Germ Theory. Safe to say, that I will definitely NOT be renewing my annual subscription with UK Column this month
Before you become a (rather optimistically named) "friend of the column" try checking out my posts there, if you can't find my name search for "The Etiology of Virology".
My membership lapses in a week or two & I have a post compiled that starts thus; "The UKC shed light on the immense dangers we face with regard to governmental control of body and mind for nefarious purposes, but they ignore the fraudulent science of virology used to help achieve these aims."
I also have a long post compiled that just needs some editing, titled "No virus found is not a Phsy-op" it is aimed at UKC members such as; SolitaireKate & germ theory advocates dan36zero, Sasha, Paul R, et al.
I found your post "The Etiology of Virology" (and all the replies) to be very interesting and correctly to the point regarding the pseudoscience of virology. It is the job of alternative media to rigorously examine and expose the Big Pharma/globalist technocrat agenda, and not to only explore a conspiracy to a certain level but go no further. I have no idea what agenda or motive Brian and Mike have in defending Germ Theory, and refusing to invite the likes of Dr Lanka, Dr Ricardo Delgardo Martin, Dr Cowan etc.. onto UKC for debates. Are both Mike and Brian secret shills for Big Pharma? Maybe or maybe not? However, in my opinion, both Mike and Brian are committing a flagrant, dereliction of duty as so-called alternative media journalists by failing to inform and educate UKC viewers of the fraud of virology!
Totally agree about UKC. Very interesting articles from Gemma, and it has certainly confirmed a few suspicions that I already have with UKC. Some of the extra revelations regarding the background of some of the presenters/contributors of the show I wasn't aware of before, but I'm not at all surprised by them. After my annual subscription ends later this month I will be permanently washing my hands off UKC!
I feel silly stating in all your writings what a great job you do, but it's true!! As I don't have the knowledge and/or the guts to do what you do, I picture myself holding your back, drying your sweat and giving you (spring) fresh water when needed... (I mean, if you prefer wine, be my guest!). Anyway, I do have a thorn with all this: I wish you could also reach the Spanish speaking community... A few days ago I got so annoyed listening to this Argentinian virologist who lives in Monaco and says over and over again in this audio interview that he isolates viruses EVERYDAY in his lab... I mean... I wish you could... BTW his name is PABLO GOLDSCHMIDT "A renowned virologist specializing in tropical diseases, Goldschmidt is a graduate of the Faculty of Pharmacy and Biochemistry of the University of Buenos Aires". I do have the audio, in Spanish, just in case... And again, dear Christine, thank you for having the knowledge and the courage and for sharing it.
I totally understand how you feel. I myself have had those same feelings. But what I've found is that it's liberating to break free from self imposed chains and speak the truth. If we Don't do it, who will? If we do, who do we recruit from the ranks of the polite who don't wish to rock the boat?? All we need is 30 % of the populace MAX to stop authoritarianism from being realized. The odds are in our favour if we act one person at a time. Speak up my friend!! I have wine for you!!
A "Dr Rachel Taylor" has responded to me in the comments under Jennifer's post (https://smithvirologist.substack.com/p/virology-101/comment/53165699?r=1kxpnn), but since Jennifer has blocked me I can't respond to her. I'd appreciate it very much if someone would post the following for me in response (thank you in advance):
I cannot respond to you directly, because Jennifer has blocked me, so I've asked someone to post this response to you.
By definition, pseudoscience is anything passed off as "science" that does not adhere to the scientific method. Surely you're already familiar with the scientific method since you describe yourself as a scientist, but in case not here is a detailed article on the topic:
ViroLIEgy 101: The Scientific Method
https://mikestone.substack.com/p/viroliegy-101-the-scientific-method
The scientific method is not a process of "interpreting effects in many different ways".
I don't know where you get the idea that I've "attacked" Jennifer. It concerns me that you frame critical comments as an "attack" and insinuate that there is something wrong with pointing out logical fallacies and false claims.
"Covid" stands for "coronavirus disease", the purported effect (that requires zero symptoms and is diagnosed with fraudulent useless tests) of the alleged cause ("coronavirus"). Even if "viruses" were real, "covid" could not be a "virus". You're conflating an alleged effect with an alleged cause.
"SARS-COV-2" and other alleged "viruses" have never been shown to exist as claimed, meaning that the particles that are pointed at in EM images have never been shown to have the purported "genomes" or proteins (let alone cause any illness).
You have made a claim about "viruses" that is backed by zero valid scientific evidence. If I'm wrong, please cite the evidence posthaste.
No, it is not better to make up new stories about particles that were never shown to exist let alone "do many different things".
"There are effects that have causes that may be interpreted in many different ways. "
So you don't need an independent variable (X) to prove that X causes Y (effect) ? So you just get to take an effect and make up stories about it...That's the beauty of "science".
I got blocked too... must be because I'm "angry"....LOL... if you don't have the answers, just censor.
These people are incredible. If the majority of people realized what is being passed off as "science" these days... things would change in a hurry.
Hello Christine:
Thanks for the substack of today and interesting interaction with Dr. Jennifer Smith. She is a trained virologist and has to believe what she has been taught, i.e., isolates or lysates (gunk) are isolated (purified) viruses. However, scientifically, these are two very different things. No one, including her, has isolated the virus. They have a false belief.
Another way to ask the question is, scientifically speaking, the end product of isolation step(s) is a pure substance with its complete characterization (chemical and structural). If one cannot provide that, the person is either ignorant of science or lying.
There is no need to argue about scientific methods or control experiments. These are not relevant to the isolation of substances, including viruses. Such an example or argument allows them to dodge the question, which has been happening for many decades, and you are well aware.
The simple question to ask is – has the virus been isolated? If the response is yes. Then, where is it, and who has the specimen of the purified virus? No ifs, buts, or explanations. End of the story.
Thanks Saeed. I agree that without a purified, sequenced, characterized particle it's game over. But I go into other details b/c so many people are in denial about this. They get bamboozled by all the nonsense the virologists do. So I address it from various angles. But of course without purified particles they have nothing!
Christine, you are amazing! Thank you for all the work you do.
Thank you so much Lynn :)
Hard to believe, but the question of whether or not there actually was a Covid virus--or a classic pandemic for that matter-- remains unsettled among leading expert commentators.
The "no virus" side of the argument is clearly presented in the article and video by Dr. Sam Bailey at https://drsambailey.com/.
Michael Yeadon agrees: "There are no respiratory viruses, we don’t know what causes the symptom’s but can’t be a virus. numerous, serious clinical research studies were set up to detect and measure symptomatic transmission (causing a well person to fall ill with similar symptoms to those of the donor person). Try as they might, that didn’t happen. Contagion in this specific scenario (acute respiratory diseases) does not happen."
Sasha Latypova agrees, maintaining that what was/is created in the lab by gain-of-function are chemical poisons. When I asked her whether the voluminous, costly and clandestine research performed by the likes of DOD, UNC & Ralph Baric in pursuit of (if not in attaining) a formidable infectious bio-weapon has been all for show? She responded: "Pretty much. They mutated a lot of bullshit and distributed some toxic chemicals. They definitely waste billions to pay themselves lavishly and assemble huge academic departments dedicated to nothing but making poison. They do not make viruses, anything live, or any GOF. Yes most of them believe their own BS. Yes, they are comically over-confident. They have never validated a single thing they claim. All this charade is doing - 1)chemical process to glue huge-size molecules together that contain nucleic acids +2)various methods of manufacture, storage, delivery and formulation of this crap. That's it. If you look into "biologics" - they never use microscope (that's strictly forbidden in molecular biology), most of the time rely on 3rd party unvalidated "kits", completely automated (likewise unvalidated) processes, like PCR. And the claims of "proteins", "viruses" and the like are based largely on the weight of the molecules they produce, and occasionally - on length of the nucleic acid chains. So they claim that a hunk of stone that weighs approximately what Michelangelo's David weighs, is marble and is the same size = the same thing as the sculpture of Michelangelo, David. / Bioweapons research makes chemicals and things like plasmids to transfect people with these chemicals. There is nothing more mysterious to it. Nothing "alive" is made. Weaponized Anthrax? It’s a chemical. They mutated a lot of bullshit and distributed some toxic chemicals. "
JJCouey hypothesizes: "Infectious clones were dropped “
Kevin McKernan diasagrees: "Many of the "No Pandemic crowd" are critical of any protest against GOF as they believe it plays into the pandemic prep narrative. It’s as if in their mind, transmissible diseases can never be engineered. I dont think they understand how easy this stuff is to tinker with. Most of the people with these beliefs don't actually have any lab experience to know how quickly a modified C19 could be reconstructed today (dozens of strains in weeks). someone spent the effort to hyper-optimize C19 ACE2 binding affinity such that it would spread far and wide.”
Geert VandenBossche premises his entire doomsday argument on there being a C-19 virus that rapidly and dangerously mutates, especially when confronted by mass vaccination with an ineffective “vaccine."
Which brings us to Jennifer's as yet unanswered question: "What do you think made millions of people sick?"
And no one has yet offered a clear and convincing explanation of how whatever it is that seemed to make people sick (if it actually did)— got distributed— or whether indeed, it was contagious.
To the distress of the sociopathic perps of both SARS-CoV-2 and the indisputably ineffective, unsafe, and deadly “vax,” the quest for the truth continues.
Quest for what truth? The "it" question has been addressed many times. There is no "it". There is no common denominator among the fake "cases", not even a tiny sequence of unknown provenance. And there is no new or old unique specific "covid" illness that needs explaining. No symptoms were required in order to be diagnosed.
And, there is zero valid evidence of contagion, for fake-covid or flu or colds (CDC already officially admitted they have none).
https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/freedom-of-information-responses-re-contagion/
The onus is on those making the virus/contagion claims and they have nothing to back them up. "covid-19" was a fictional narrative, nothing more.
Latypova is an interesting character. Up until very recently she came unhinged on anyone bringing up the no-virus issue. Suddenly she acts as though she saw the no-virus truth all along, yet calls anyone who is no-virus but not "credentialed" to her satisfaction an "ankle-biter". Might have something to do with her background serving big pharma, who knows.
"Adolf Eichman's life was boringly ordinary, but he was caught up in an international script of the political state that he had neither the inclination nor the mental resources to comprehend. His response was that of a trained animal, just following, following—never thinking an original thought or doing an original deed. He learned how to get along. So it has been in the hallowed halls of the National Cancer Institute (NCI), National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAIDS), the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), the World Health Organization (WHO), and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) all the way down to the private doctor’s office. Thousands of people are making their living by not exactly lying but not exactly telling the truth—just following, following. The groupthink mentality has had deadly consequences. It defies honor. And because it is a delusional and deadly fantasyland, I call it virusworld. Virusworld is a mythical land where diminutive minds and shrunken souls have been given billions in blood money sucked from the corpses of the dead to create an illusion of a virus that has never been found. However, it is the opening round in the death-knell scenario for an obsolete and disproven theory.
The disease-causing virus paradigm deserves neither solemnity nor respect. It deserves nothing less than outrage and ridicule as the awareness increases that it is based purely on myth and the magic of technological razzmatazz and has nothing to do with the logic of scientific truth."
Wrote (& slightly paraphrased by me) Dr Nancy Turner banks in her 2016 book; The Slow Death of the AIDS Cancer Paradigm.
https://archive.org/details/the-slow-death-of-the-aids-cancer-paradigm/page/n5/mode/2up
Awesome quote!!
It is a good quote, Dr Nancy Turner Banks (M.D. not Phd) was quite clued up, along with the above linked book, her book "AIDS, Opium, Diamonds & Empire, the Virus of International Greed" also gets a Foxy rating of; "highly recommended"
https://ia601604.us.archive.org/27/items/nancy-turner-banks_202304/Nancy%20Turner%20Banks.pdf
Thanks to Misha from Gamzuletova for providing the links.
https://gamzuletova.org/
I became aware of your FOIA's on fluoridefreepeel.ca (along with David Crowes contagionmyth website) in mid 2020 so a big THANKYOU to you as well Christine for your tireless work.
Probably wasted my time, but had a go on her comment thread as well. I see others dropping in so why not document it...
"So do you believe the entire field of immunology is also fake?"
I think everyone acknowledges that this field of highly paid professionals exists (ergo, not "fake"). However, some have come to challenge what their training has taught them about how the human body functions. Since the "immune system" is a hypothetical construct built on the back of a demonstrably failed hypothesis, it is beginning to look like this field is just churning out technical data that skipped over provenance issues that would be the foundation of their work- and are subsequently just fiddling with lab toys that follow inventive reasoning & forgone conclusions (assumptions) far far down the stream. The only logical conclusion would be that things like independent variables and the scientific method are/were not important to them and that they were given limited framework to operate within. I wonder, do 'immunologists' ever challenge their field? You could say they have a major problem, are compartmentalized, and there are a lot of them. Let us not apply the bandwagon fallacy. A lot of people doing things the same wrong way doesn't make it true, or make them "experts".
"How do you account for virus specific antibodies?"
Nobody needs to account for an "antibody" if there is no body to be "anti" with in the beginning. We are dealing with another hypothetical construct here. Stay on course. Find the independent variable in nature first...then you could test to see if other particles or protein globulins that may or may not appear have anything to do with "it". We don't want to begin with assumptions and reification fallacies. It could be that your field training manual has taught you to work backwards (see above). You should start at the beginning.
"What you are doing is quite dangerous, insinuating that microorganisms do not exist."
It would be, and has been far more dangerous to claim a specific microorganism- that can allegedly do all sorts of super powerful bad stuff- has been found in nature and characterized without following the scientific method to do so. I think you appropriately called it a "tool". Let us see the hammer separated from everything else in the tool box. Nobody can 'prove' that unicorns don't exist. However, if someone was to claim they were killing millions of people, we'd sure want to see if/how they were found in nature. Is that dangerous?
"Have you not ever been sick once in your entire life?"
That's about as relevant as me asking if you've ever had a banana. Are you under the impression that there is only one single cause of every symptom of disease? That's what your question implies and it's extremely troubling for many reasons.
Awesome responses, Pete!!
My contribution- sorry but this individual can't think clearly. I mean this in the most clinical and literal sense of the phrase.
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Calling it fake hardly covers it. Have you studied the history of disease?
There are no such things as "virus specific antibodies."
Conflating any of this with the negation of microorganisms is a logical fallacy. Certainly you understand the basics manner of logic and reasoning?
Conflating any of that with the question of an individual being ill is yet another logical fallacy.
I swear to god I can't believe the extremely low levels of understanding of basic logical constructs in supposedly "educated" people as they struggle to string together coherent ideas and concepts in an attempt to defend their positions.
https://smithvirologist.substack.com/p/virology-101/comment/53140753
"I can tell you I have colleagues who are working with SARS viruses in animal models."
Can you cite any papers on this?
Again sorry to harp on this but you really do need to figure out how to discuss these matters coherently. Any logician would toss you out of the room if this were your presented evidence and line of reasoning.
BTW the days of the "experts" are over as you must know. People are thankfully avoiding and scorning "experts" left and right.
All the best.
https://smithvirologist.substack.com/p/virology-101/comment/53140993
Appeal to expertise.
Logical fallacy.
There are four additional fallacies in your comment here. Can you spot them?
My apologies.
https://smithvirologist.substack.com/p/virology-101/comment/53141056
Awesome, great job Allen :)
"The virus was a TOOL used to implement the new biosecurity state" says this 'virologist and public health professional' - in defence of the greatest Propaganda PsyOp the world has ever known ('viruses', 'vaccines' ... and the political plandemic).
Wow! You could frame that. An invisible imaginary tool to trick and torment humanity into totalitarian imprisonment. For our 'health and safety' of course.
Right?! She's so close... but so far.
Excellent! Please continue to expose these interactions. They are adding to the mountains of evidence and proof that no one can offer any real science to rescue the pseudoscience known as “virology”. She blocked you to avoid looking more and more foolish. Thank you Christine!
"Evidence? We don't need no effing evidence, we are scientists, our degrees render what we say ...self-evident." :-)
Thanks again, Christine.
Thanks for restoring my faith.
The viruses are important for rockefeller medicine, it can not be otherwise...and when the virology, molecular biology (the birth of) , most of the modern medicine science, medical schools, drug bussineses and medicine monopoly have ties with rockefellers ("support OUR science"), everything is made based on the house "golden rules". We let our lives, the understanding of entire life in their hands, like they were the only gods , now we need a real reset of the "science", to work hard to get the truth, the common sense and as a duty, a realy understanding by ouselves of a lot of things we didn't care about too much in time.
I appreciate your work.
Thanks for this Christine.
When i saw the presentation on the PANDA site, i commented "Disappointed in this belief. Virology is pseudo-science. A belief in the existence of goblins and spooks and fairies. It was supported by artifacts created by EM's. June Almeida lied."
No response at all from Panda.
I concur with Pamela. Christine, you are the, "Mostest". (That's a 1950's term of extreme praise from the "Beatnik" era of America). Always bear in mind this maxim, a maxim being a conclusion of logic: "He who affirms must prove." NOT, he who denies. You can throw this in the face of those imbecilic System Shills who bray like jackasses in a pepper patch supporting the fallacy of virology. The onus is on them to prove viruses exist, not on you to prove they do not. Of course they can't, so they obfuscate like the weasels they are. Anything for some crumbs from massa's table. Or maybe they are stupid enough to believe the lies. (Ever notice in the middle of "believe" is the word "lie"? A coincidence or synchronicity?). Keep punching, Christine, you are doing a fantastic job.
On UK column news extra last week the discussion on bird flu the point was made that 100,000 birds (approx) are slaughtered for every "case" shown to be positive by PCR i.e. slaughter on suspicion. This is sheer madness but it is done out of sight. https://www.ukcolumn.org/
I do think the animal "viruses" illustrate the absurdity and the danger of the "virologists" arguments.
Hi Emma, I haven't watched an episode of The UK Column since last June......have they addressed the "no virus found" conundrum yet?
Brian Gerrish is on record as stating that UKC viewers would be put off by this "issue" & Mike Robinson has said quite clearly; "I've got a problem with terrain theory".
Hi Andy, I haven't seen any more discussion on UKC about this but I do not watch every episode. So many people cannot change their minds about long held beliefs: what is it that is said about "anger, denial, acceptance..." Lets hope that the worm of doubt keeps gnawing away at the old school beliefs that so many people cling to. I do think that reading the comments below shows how many people are waking up, some slowly, some suddenly. I will therefore continue to support the UKC and think the new contributors Charles Martel and Ben Rubin are worth watching too.
I also think that saying that the medicating of pets and farm animals is poisoning them and making them ill is a way of moving the argument from "what makes us ill then?" to "don't you see this is a money making scam and a way of poisoning our food supply?"
Thanks Andy for this vital info regarding UK Column. I took an annual subscription with UK Column last April and it is due for renewal this month. In the chat section in the UK Column website, a contributor had revealed that Mike Robinson had refused to invite a Biostatistician from the University of Almeria, Spain onto UK Column to discuss what was in the Covid quackzine as according to Mike he felt that there 'wasn't enough corroborating evidence to support the findings of the Biostatistician team's research. Mike's assertions are very much false as there are plenty of independent scientists all over the world doing the same research into the covid. So, your revelations about UK Column matches my suspicions of them supporting the false Germ Theory. Safe to say, that I will definitely NOT be renewing my annual subscription with UK Column this month
Cheers for the reply & that info.
Before you become a (rather optimistically named) "friend of the column" try checking out my posts there, if you can't find my name search for "The Etiology of Virology".
My membership lapses in a week or two & I have a post compiled that starts thus; "The UKC shed light on the immense dangers we face with regard to governmental control of body and mind for nefarious purposes, but they ignore the fraudulent science of virology used to help achieve these aims."
I also have a long post compiled that just needs some editing, titled "No virus found is not a Phsy-op" it is aimed at UKC members such as; SolitaireKate & germ theory advocates dan36zero, Sasha, Paul R, et al.
I found your post "The Etiology of Virology" (and all the replies) to be very interesting and correctly to the point regarding the pseudoscience of virology. It is the job of alternative media to rigorously examine and expose the Big Pharma/globalist technocrat agenda, and not to only explore a conspiracy to a certain level but go no further. I have no idea what agenda or motive Brian and Mike have in defending Germ Theory, and refusing to invite the likes of Dr Lanka, Dr Ricardo Delgardo Martin, Dr Cowan etc.. onto UKC for debates. Are both Mike and Brian secret shills for Big Pharma? Maybe or maybe not? However, in my opinion, both Mike and Brian are committing a flagrant, dereliction of duty as so-called alternative media journalists by failing to inform and educate UKC viewers of the fraud of virology!
Gemma O'Doherty has written about the UKC, Ian Davies & Alex Thomson have replied in the comments section!
https://gemmaodoherty.substack.com/p/gemma-odoherty-alternative-media
https://gemmaodoherty.substack.com/p/uk-column-are-controlled-opposition
The UKC must be critiqued, it is then up to them to answer the criticism & prove they are on the side of the common man.
Totally agree about UKC. Very interesting articles from Gemma, and it has certainly confirmed a few suspicions that I already have with UKC. Some of the extra revelations regarding the background of some of the presenters/contributors of the show I wasn't aware of before, but I'm not at all surprised by them. After my annual subscription ends later this month I will be permanently washing my hands off UKC!
I feel silly stating in all your writings what a great job you do, but it's true!! As I don't have the knowledge and/or the guts to do what you do, I picture myself holding your back, drying your sweat and giving you (spring) fresh water when needed... (I mean, if you prefer wine, be my guest!). Anyway, I do have a thorn with all this: I wish you could also reach the Spanish speaking community... A few days ago I got so annoyed listening to this Argentinian virologist who lives in Monaco and says over and over again in this audio interview that he isolates viruses EVERYDAY in his lab... I mean... I wish you could... BTW his name is PABLO GOLDSCHMIDT "A renowned virologist specializing in tropical diseases, Goldschmidt is a graduate of the Faculty of Pharmacy and Biochemistry of the University of Buenos Aires". I do have the audio, in Spanish, just in case... And again, dear Christine, thank you for having the knowledge and the courage and for sharing it.
I totally understand how you feel. I myself have had those same feelings. But what I've found is that it's liberating to break free from self imposed chains and speak the truth. If we Don't do it, who will? If we do, who do we recruit from the ranks of the polite who don't wish to rock the boat?? All we need is 30 % of the populace MAX to stop authoritarianism from being realized. The odds are in our favour if we act one person at a time. Speak up my friend!! I have wine for you!!
Could you please send me his contact info? Maybe we could collaborate on an FOI or emails to him (you could check my Spanish)?
Check your substack email!
And you can count on me to check your Spanish!
I'm trying to find his contact info. Will let you know asap. THANK YOU!!!!