And someone wrote to me via email: "As far as Spanish Conquistadors bringing germs to America: "What Really Makes You Ill" do a nice summary of what really happened."
Nov 26, 2023·edited Nov 26, 2023Liked by Christine Massey FOIs
At the time the Conquistadors never discussed any pandemics in their literature. They did discuss starving the Natives by burning their crops as well as poisoning their water supply with mercury which was a way to extract gold from the mining ore.
In the US, Natives didn't die from smallpox infected blankets. That was a cover story for the 1832 Indian Vaccination Act. All the Natives who died died of the smallpox vaccine. This strategy worked so well, the US military imported it into the Philippines. It's called Vaccine Imperialism. You pretend to go to a nation for humanitarian reasons, make people sick, then force those nation you want to colonize to sell off valuable property in exchange for vaccines that are toxic. Did this with the Native Americans, the Filipinos. In fact still doing it, except that they've replaced direct colonialism with neocolonialism. Ecuador, Peru, Chile, etc all were forced to give up valuable mines and ports to buy the Pfizer vaccine.
Jeezuz! The number of useful idiots in the world is shocking! Can't believe anyone would sellout their own peeps and viable economy for a Pfizer jab! They need to be straight jacketed with the key to their cell thrown away! EFFIN ASSHOLES!!
I read What Really Makes You Ill as soon as it was published, just as the world was going into 'lock-down'. It is one of the most important books of this century!
Same! As I was reading it I came across Dr Tom Cowan, then Dr Andy Kaufman, Dr Stefan Lanka, and Dr Sam Bailey (& Dr Mark). I was ecstatic to hear all these people (professional doctors, no less) poke holes in all the germ theory/ contagion nonsense. So freeing!
I have seen many videos and read books where MDs were told by their deans that half of what they were taught is true and half is false but they (the universities) don't know where the truth hide itself.
It seems to me that they only have a 50% chance that what they believe is true. So arguing that since they've got training in big universities and having graduated from them is a proof of higher, very reliable knowledge, looks from my perspective, very questionnable. Is it up to the point that throwing a coin and believing that what it will show is reliable as an answer is a valid scientific method to find answer...?!? But one still get one chance over two to get the truth. ;-)Just joking but since iatrogenic death is the third cause of death in the US and elsewhere, I question myself sometimes... if this is not what science has become as a method. ;-) An interesting book to look at is "Science for sale". ;-)
Just for laugh but which color the laughing is, that is the question here. :-) ;-)
Yeah, Dr. V C needs to cite some evidence from that comfy chair of his. His rhetoric is amazing but a little too late against the idiots who promote the "virus" contagion myth. Shame, as he would be a useful ally in the health freedom movement if he could actually understand a viroliegy paper.
Hi I think the major issue in regard to susceptibility to illness is testing and in the present technological environment is implantables which I personally will always resist. I say that parasites may cause illness not only cancer. I do believe that germs are not the cause of illness but they may exacerbate the symptoms. Authentic experimentation with the focus moved from germs as a cause rather than the aftermath of the illness.
Thank you for your perseverance and being indomitable in your pursuit of the truth.
Why is it that Sam does not reply to the questions directly, are you more interested in answering for her. I can probably see the lack of evidence for virus's but bacteria etc may be a different thing. How do you envisage ascertaining the health or vulnerability of an individual, not with the use of AI I hope. As you may have seen in my previous post to Tomas Hull, confusion abounds in every area it seems. Is it a psyop. Whilst we are arguing amongst ourselves we are not seeing the bear walking through the crowd un-noticed,
Maybe it's because Sam has 3 children including 1 that is only a year or so old, creates a new video every week, moved recently to a large property and now has various animals and food-growing to tend to, gets zillions of emails from all around the world, and is only 1 woman with 24 hours in the day? Maybe she ignores emails about things that she discusses regularly in her videos and addressed in her book?
You're free to search for proof that bacteria cause illness, just like the rest of us. None of the FOIs that I've done to the CDC yielded any.
It still comes down to experimentation not supposition to prove hypothesis. Still think germs have a major role to play in symptoms of illness. I also believe the role of healthy living, avoidace of stress and rducing or avaiding exposure to toxins is obviously a major factor in illness preventation and management of symptoms, but genetics and will also play a role. By the way has Sam Bailey ever spoke about parasites and illness as was possitted by Lee Merritt? If she has please send me the link
Right, but anyone can search the literature. I don't have a lab either, neither does Sam.
If you have valid evidence that "genetics" play a role, please share. The whole concepts of genetics is being questioned. I don't know if "genes" really even exist, but don't have the energy personally right now to go down that hole.
Off the top of my head, I don't recall Sam addressing parasites in the cancer context that Lee Merritt had discussed. I saw the clip of Lee talking about the connection and found it weak, to be honest. She didn't describe evidence that parasites actually cause cancer.
I do believe proton magic spoke about antibiotics in conjunction with Ivermectiin being effective against cancer, unless I misunderstood. To be honest their are so many theories about everything that it is hard for anyone to retain perspective and be objective. Its almost like their is an agenda at play to keep us confused as was implied by Yuri Bezmenov and the former head of the CIA.
thank you i was not aware of people doing such things but it makes total sense although i am going to have to look up proton magic i don t know what that means ---------------but i completly understand redirecting the curious minds back to the circus------------i have no words to describe how low these peole will go ---- looking forward to seeing more of your post JON
This letter not only tells its reader that Dr. Coleman has no information that refutes the no germ stance, it is a great example of the psychological games that are played ,in attempt to evade the question put forth- to show proof that germs & viruses exist! It couldnt be a more straight forward. But, still,no answer. Speaks volumes! Dr. Coleman has no proof.
Sep 11, 2023·edited Sep 11, 2023Liked by Christine Massey FOIs
I'm wondering, Christine, with all the different ways you've seen people respond to the idea that viruses don't exist and so-called germ theory (disproven germ hypothesis, as Sam Bailey calls it) is not a true explanation for why people get sick--do you have any thoughts on why people get so triggered by this message? Coleman's screed is a perfect example. Why is he so angry that some people--a growing number I'd say--are seeing through the false history of these ideas and pointing to a very different way of understanding human biology and health? Maybe it's what some in this category say, that the no-virus argument is dividing the health freedom movement--but I have a sense there's something more going on.
I have a housemate who has listened to some, at least, of Sam's videos and read Mike Stone's Viroliegy SS (I gave her a gift subscription), and yet she keeps telling me she "can't make the jump" to a new way of looking at disease and symptoms. "What about rabies? What about smallpox?" she says. I give her references to read about those things, but she doesn't really want to hear that, she just wants to maintain a skeptical position. It's like she's afraid of learning the truth about those diseases and all the rest. And this is a person who is very much in the health freedom camp, and sees through all the other nefarious aspects of what is going on right now, what the current virus scare is all about. And I don't think the divisiveness argument is part of what motivates her.
She keeps insisting that the injections are bioweapons, even when I explain my view that they are chemical or other types of poison that affect us biologically, but they are not biological themselves.
I'm just baffled why people are so resistant to this particular piece of the puzzle when they are aware of the plandemic, chemtrails, CBDCs, 5G, smart cities, etc. Do you have any thoughts on this?
A survey found that something like 2/3 of people don't feel comfortable discussing politics in public. I would imagine that discussing people's beliefs in long standing "science" is the same way.
It's not that everyone believes germ theory. It's that we'll never know how many people don't because the majority of people believe that everyone else believes germ theory.
The flip side to this is congressional polling data. Congress, as a whole, consistently gets approval numbers in the low teens. However, polling data for individual congress members does not reflect that sentiment.
The reason for this is simple. The congress members that YOU vote for aren't shitty. 😉👉 It's all the OTHER congress members that suck!
I think the most important part of this discussion is people questioning things more. You don't have to completely understand the inner workings of a system to realize that it's being weaponized against you. You don't need to know the firing order for a car's engine, to know not to stand in the path of an oncoming car!
You're right about germ theory though, the deeper you go down the rabbit hole, the more circular and illogical it gets. It's like quantum theory, when there's conflicting evidence, you just make up shit to fill in the gaps. After all, who's going to disprove how a theoretical concept "might" work?
It's really just a majority of people believing that "someone really smart" figured things out. And it's all too complicated to understand. But it's not. I believe that we don't know much about the way the human body works. A lot of it is just made up.
If nobody can figure out some ailment, it's an "autoimmune disorder" or a "virus."
In my view, the "divisive" argument is just another distraction. First, there is no real "health freedom movement". To have true health freedom it must be based on the truth, right? Not just some partial sort of truths that one has cherry picked to observe, or even at that, only part of the partial truths oftentimes. Like having "safe vaccines". There just happen to be a bunch of doctors and other "professionals" who like being part of something that gains attention, and probably $$$ for many, while at the same time convincing themselves what they're doing is altruistic and a huge benefit to all mankind. Those that have, and continue to , expose the full fraud which will crumble everything based on fear of pathogens of any source, aren't really a movement and certainly not a cult as most groups are. and are truly concerned with the truth, only the truth, and true freedoms for all mankind.
I know you realize the fraud and the true fearless warriors. I just think that calling us a "movement" or a "no virus group" or "no virus people" is intentionally undermining just like "conspiracy theorist" is. Anyone that tries to claim showing the truth is "divisive" has already shown his/her hand.
I think there are various reasons. Some people don't want to have to admit to being wrong. Some have a guilty conscience (for having jabbed their kids or patients). Some are financially entangled via employment or investments. Some are socially entangled, they have family/friends who are part of the system or who profit financially from the dogma. Some just don't like to stand out from the crowd with such a "fringe" outlook. Maybe some are scared to face the possibility that the government could be so evil or incompetent, or that their MDs don't really know what they're talking about, or that their "freedom" heroes are on the wrong side. I guess to confront this reality you have to be ready to face up to troubling facts, that so many people can be so wrong on something so basic. And maybe some people are just mentally tired and overwhelmed and need a breather or some time to let the reality sink in.
Of all the doctors, I did like the old man in a chair. I still do, But stopped wasting my time watching him about a year ago. Now I better understand why. Same reason I stopped wasting my time with minotti.
Microscopes don't lie. But many doctors do, knowingly or otherwise.
I admit that I had a certain fondness for Dr Coleman back in the early days of Convid when he was on YouTube and speaking out against the lockdowns, masks and Big Harma, etc. But I have no idea where he hangs out now to have been receiving all these alleged attacks from 'no-virus' proponents.
He loves to reference Semmelweis but I think he is unable to see that his aggressive attack towards those who claim that pathogenic contagious particles have never been scientifically proven to exist is somewhat akin to the 'Semmelweis reflex', i.e. the notion that the reason Semmelweis was essentially hounded to death by his fellow physicians, was because they simply could not bear the psychological trauma that they had been harming their patients through their own ignorance.
I have heard Dr Coleman state on several occasions that no advocate of vaccination is willing to debate him because he could so easily destroy all their arguments. Well, maybe someone from 'team no-virus' needs to offer him a similar challenge. Personally I'd love to see him have a one on one discussion with Tom Cowan.
Dr Sam Bailey has addressed some of Dr Coleman’s remarks, in her new video: https://drsambailey.substack.com/p/5-spectacular-fails-from-germ-theory
And someone wrote to me via email: "As far as Spanish Conquistadors bringing germs to America: "What Really Makes You Ill" do a nice summary of what really happened."
Book by Dawn Lester and David Parker: https://whatreallymakesyouill.com/
At the time the Conquistadors never discussed any pandemics in their literature. They did discuss starving the Natives by burning their crops as well as poisoning their water supply with mercury which was a way to extract gold from the mining ore.
In the US, Natives didn't die from smallpox infected blankets. That was a cover story for the 1832 Indian Vaccination Act. All the Natives who died died of the smallpox vaccine. This strategy worked so well, the US military imported it into the Philippines. It's called Vaccine Imperialism. You pretend to go to a nation for humanitarian reasons, make people sick, then force those nation you want to colonize to sell off valuable property in exchange for vaccines that are toxic. Did this with the Native Americans, the Filipinos. In fact still doing it, except that they've replaced direct colonialism with neocolonialism. Ecuador, Peru, Chile, etc all were forced to give up valuable mines and ports to buy the Pfizer vaccine.
Jeezuz! The number of useful idiots in the world is shocking! Can't believe anyone would sellout their own peeps and viable economy for a Pfizer jab! They need to be straight jacketed with the key to their cell thrown away! EFFIN ASSHOLES!!
Thank you again Jessica, very insightful comment.
I read What Really Makes You Ill as soon as it was published, just as the world was going into 'lock-down'. It is one of the most important books of this century!
https://www.amazon.com/What-Really-Makes-You-Ill/dp/1673104037
Same! As I was reading it I came across Dr Tom Cowan, then Dr Andy Kaufman, Dr Stefan Lanka, and Dr Sam Bailey (& Dr Mark). I was ecstatic to hear all these people (professional doctors, no less) poke holes in all the germ theory/ contagion nonsense. So freeing!
Hi!
I have seen many videos and read books where MDs were told by their deans that half of what they were taught is true and half is false but they (the universities) don't know where the truth hide itself.
It seems to me that they only have a 50% chance that what they believe is true. So arguing that since they've got training in big universities and having graduated from them is a proof of higher, very reliable knowledge, looks from my perspective, very questionnable. Is it up to the point that throwing a coin and believing that what it will show is reliable as an answer is a valid scientific method to find answer...?!? But one still get one chance over two to get the truth. ;-)Just joking but since iatrogenic death is the third cause of death in the US and elsewhere, I question myself sometimes... if this is not what science has become as a method. ;-) An interesting book to look at is "Science for sale". ;-)
Just for laugh but which color the laughing is, that is the question here. :-) ;-)
Coleman is a doddering, incoherent fool...does anyone even listen to him?
Brilliant Christine.
Yeah, Dr. V C needs to cite some evidence from that comfy chair of his. His rhetoric is amazing but a little too late against the idiots who promote the "virus" contagion myth. Shame, as he would be a useful ally in the health freedom movement if he could actually understand a viroliegy paper.
Dr. V got schooled proper!! Nice!!
Hi I think the major issue in regard to susceptibility to illness is testing and in the present technological environment is implantables which I personally will always resist. I say that parasites may cause illness not only cancer. I do believe that germs are not the cause of illness but they may exacerbate the symptoms. Authentic experimentation with the focus moved from germs as a cause rather than the aftermath of the illness.
Thank you for your perseverance and being indomitable in your pursuit of the truth.
Terry
Why is it that Sam does not reply to the questions directly, are you more interested in answering for her. I can probably see the lack of evidence for virus's but bacteria etc may be a different thing. How do you envisage ascertaining the health or vulnerability of an individual, not with the use of AI I hope. As you may have seen in my previous post to Tomas Hull, confusion abounds in every area it seems. Is it a psyop. Whilst we are arguing amongst ourselves we are not seeing the bear walking through the crowd un-noticed,
Maybe it's because Sam has 3 children including 1 that is only a year or so old, creates a new video every week, moved recently to a large property and now has various animals and food-growing to tend to, gets zillions of emails from all around the world, and is only 1 woman with 24 hours in the day? Maybe she ignores emails about things that she discusses regularly in her videos and addressed in her book?
You're free to search for proof that bacteria cause illness, just like the rest of us. None of the FOIs that I've done to the CDC yielded any.
https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/do-health-authorities-have-studies-proving-that-bacteria-cause-disease-lets-find-out-via-freedom-of-information/
Who could imagine prioritizing family over posts? Wot az the world come to?
It still comes down to experimentation not supposition to prove hypothesis. Still think germs have a major role to play in symptoms of illness. I also believe the role of healthy living, avoidace of stress and rducing or avaiding exposure to toxins is obviously a major factor in illness preventation and management of symptoms, but genetics and will also play a role. By the way has Sam Bailey ever spoke about parasites and illness as was possitted by Lee Merritt? If she has please send me the link
Right, but anyone can search the literature. I don't have a lab either, neither does Sam.
If you have valid evidence that "genetics" play a role, please share. The whole concepts of genetics is being questioned. I don't know if "genes" really even exist, but don't have the energy personally right now to go down that hole.
Off the top of my head, I don't recall Sam addressing parasites in the cancer context that Lee Merritt had discussed. I saw the clip of Lee talking about the connection and found it weak, to be honest. She didn't describe evidence that parasites actually cause cancer.
I do believe proton magic spoke about antibiotics in conjunction with Ivermectiin being effective against cancer, unless I misunderstood. To be honest their are so many theories about everything that it is hard for anyone to retain perspective and be objective. Its almost like their is an agenda at play to keep us confused as was implied by Yuri Bezmenov and the former head of the CIA.
thank you i was not aware of people doing such things but it makes total sense although i am going to have to look up proton magic i don t know what that means ---------------but i completly understand redirecting the curious minds back to the circus------------i have no words to describe how low these peole will go ---- looking forward to seeing more of your post JON
Proton Magic is a great writer here on substack:
https://protonmagic.substack.com/p/proton-magic-elected-committee-chair
I’m not sure whether Proton Magic is being honest or is just trying to divert our attention from real problems. I hope my doubts are unfounded.
If you have a fish tank with fish, do you clean the tank?
Bingo :)
This letter not only tells its reader that Dr. Coleman has no information that refutes the no germ stance, it is a great example of the psychological games that are played ,in attempt to evade the question put forth- to show proof that germs & viruses exist! It couldnt be a more straight forward. But, still,no answer. Speaks volumes! Dr. Coleman has no proof.
Bingo.
I'm wondering, Christine, with all the different ways you've seen people respond to the idea that viruses don't exist and so-called germ theory (disproven germ hypothesis, as Sam Bailey calls it) is not a true explanation for why people get sick--do you have any thoughts on why people get so triggered by this message? Coleman's screed is a perfect example. Why is he so angry that some people--a growing number I'd say--are seeing through the false history of these ideas and pointing to a very different way of understanding human biology and health? Maybe it's what some in this category say, that the no-virus argument is dividing the health freedom movement--but I have a sense there's something more going on.
I have a housemate who has listened to some, at least, of Sam's videos and read Mike Stone's Viroliegy SS (I gave her a gift subscription), and yet she keeps telling me she "can't make the jump" to a new way of looking at disease and symptoms. "What about rabies? What about smallpox?" she says. I give her references to read about those things, but she doesn't really want to hear that, she just wants to maintain a skeptical position. It's like she's afraid of learning the truth about those diseases and all the rest. And this is a person who is very much in the health freedom camp, and sees through all the other nefarious aspects of what is going on right now, what the current virus scare is all about. And I don't think the divisiveness argument is part of what motivates her.
She keeps insisting that the injections are bioweapons, even when I explain my view that they are chemical or other types of poison that affect us biologically, but they are not biological themselves.
I'm just baffled why people are so resistant to this particular piece of the puzzle when they are aware of the plandemic, chemtrails, CBDCs, 5G, smart cities, etc. Do you have any thoughts on this?
I think a lot of it has to do with conditioning.
A survey found that something like 2/3 of people don't feel comfortable discussing politics in public. I would imagine that discussing people's beliefs in long standing "science" is the same way.
It's not that everyone believes germ theory. It's that we'll never know how many people don't because the majority of people believe that everyone else believes germ theory.
The flip side to this is congressional polling data. Congress, as a whole, consistently gets approval numbers in the low teens. However, polling data for individual congress members does not reflect that sentiment.
The reason for this is simple. The congress members that YOU vote for aren't shitty. 😉👉 It's all the OTHER congress members that suck!
I think the most important part of this discussion is people questioning things more. You don't have to completely understand the inner workings of a system to realize that it's being weaponized against you. You don't need to know the firing order for a car's engine, to know not to stand in the path of an oncoming car!
You're right about germ theory though, the deeper you go down the rabbit hole, the more circular and illogical it gets. It's like quantum theory, when there's conflicting evidence, you just make up shit to fill in the gaps. After all, who's going to disprove how a theoretical concept "might" work?
It's really just a majority of people believing that "someone really smart" figured things out. And it's all too complicated to understand. But it's not. I believe that we don't know much about the way the human body works. A lot of it is just made up.
If nobody can figure out some ailment, it's an "autoimmune disorder" or a "virus."
In my view, the "divisive" argument is just another distraction. First, there is no real "health freedom movement". To have true health freedom it must be based on the truth, right? Not just some partial sort of truths that one has cherry picked to observe, or even at that, only part of the partial truths oftentimes. Like having "safe vaccines". There just happen to be a bunch of doctors and other "professionals" who like being part of something that gains attention, and probably $$$ for many, while at the same time convincing themselves what they're doing is altruistic and a huge benefit to all mankind. Those that have, and continue to , expose the full fraud which will crumble everything based on fear of pathogens of any source, aren't really a movement and certainly not a cult as most groups are. and are truly concerned with the truth, only the truth, and true freedoms for all mankind.
I know you realize the fraud and the true fearless warriors. I just think that calling us a "movement" or a "no virus group" or "no virus people" is intentionally undermining just like "conspiracy theorist" is. Anyone that tries to claim showing the truth is "divisive" has already shown his/her hand.
I think there are various reasons. Some people don't want to have to admit to being wrong. Some have a guilty conscience (for having jabbed their kids or patients). Some are financially entangled via employment or investments. Some are socially entangled, they have family/friends who are part of the system or who profit financially from the dogma. Some just don't like to stand out from the crowd with such a "fringe" outlook. Maybe some are scared to face the possibility that the government could be so evil or incompetent, or that their MDs don't really know what they're talking about, or that their "freedom" heroes are on the wrong side. I guess to confront this reality you have to be ready to face up to troubling facts, that so many people can be so wrong on something so basic. And maybe some people are just mentally tired and overwhelmed and need a breather or some time to let the reality sink in.
Superb truth bombs!!
Hi Christine,
Of all the doctors, I did like the old man in a chair. I still do, But stopped wasting my time watching him about a year ago. Now I better understand why. Same reason I stopped wasting my time with minotti.
Microscopes don't lie. But many doctors do, knowingly or otherwise.
Thank You very much,
matt
Thanks Christine, this is excellent work as ever.
I admit that I had a certain fondness for Dr Coleman back in the early days of Convid when he was on YouTube and speaking out against the lockdowns, masks and Big Harma, etc. But I have no idea where he hangs out now to have been receiving all these alleged attacks from 'no-virus' proponents.
He loves to reference Semmelweis but I think he is unable to see that his aggressive attack towards those who claim that pathogenic contagious particles have never been scientifically proven to exist is somewhat akin to the 'Semmelweis reflex', i.e. the notion that the reason Semmelweis was essentially hounded to death by his fellow physicians, was because they simply could not bear the psychological trauma that they had been harming their patients through their own ignorance.
I have heard Dr Coleman state on several occasions that no advocate of vaccination is willing to debate him because he could so easily destroy all their arguments. Well, maybe someone from 'team no-virus' needs to offer him a similar challenge. Personally I'd love to see him have a one on one discussion with Tom Cowan.
I would love to see that as well, Lynne :)
Christine, I am sharing a link to my useful document that provides a variety of resources to question the fraudulent “germ theory”:
https://www.questionuniverse.com/germs_disease_fraudD.pdf
Questioning the Universe Publishing (QUP) {Irucka Embry]: Germs Can Not & Do Not Cause Dis-ease: The “germ theory of disease
causation” is a Fraud
Irucka Embry
Thank you.
Irucka